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Default Jul 31, 2018 at 04:52 PM
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Is every narcissist inherently evil? If so, does that automatically deem me a bad person?
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Hello seaweedlover: Well... I don't know the answer to your question. The fact that you ask it may suggest you're not really a narcissist. You may have some narcissistic traits. I think I probably have a few of those too. But as the article below suggests there's a difference between having some narcissistic traits & having narcissistic personality disorder:

True Narcissists Aren't Who You Think They Are

If one reads through the various articles in PsychCentral's archives on narcissism (& probably elsewhere I would presume) I think one would soon become convinced there is nothing good about a true narcissist. At least that is the impression I've been left with. That's about all I can say on the subject.

By the way... I noticed this is your first post here on PC. So... welcome to PsychCentral! I hope you find PC to be of benefit.
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Default Aug 01, 2018 at 02:38 AM
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I think if you're concerned about being "bad", you probably aren't. I don't think narcissists are necessarily bad, either.
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Default Aug 16, 2018 at 03:18 PM
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Evil is defined as someone or something that's profoundly immoral and malevolent.

Does that sound like you, or perhaps another word would be more fitting?

I don't believe narcissists are inherently evil, I think what makes some people evil is far more complex than just personality dysfunction in and of itself.
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I am a narcissist and I’m extremely nice.
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Default Sep 28, 2018 at 01:57 AM
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Is every narcissist inherently evil? If so, does that automatically deem me a bad person?
Hi, you would not be asking that question if you were an narc. Everyone has a certain amount of "healthy" narcissism, that is normal. Unfortunately "narcissism" is a term that is too loosely tossed about these days (albeit they do appear to be on the increase, no idea why) As a result of the term being bandied about so frequently, people become dismissive of a person who can spot an narc a mile away and attempt to warn that person of eminent danger.

Real narcs are extremely dangerous people. Their acts are evil. They lack so much and are so inwardly unhappy, seething, full of hatred. They have the need to cover this up (especially to themselves). They have a desperate need to come across and feel they are superior, they are the walking wounded, if extreme soulless individuals with deep seated lack.

They often seek sympathy and suck it up like Dracula at the blood bank. They cannot get enough narcissistic supply. They have no issue using whoever they can to fulfill their needs but just as quickly dump and in fact denigrate those same generous, kind people when he or she is finished with them.

If you upset them, they may destroy you, at the least you will pay a penalty. A hint of disapproval will inflict narcissistic injury, which will be met with disproportionate reprisals.

Narcs are not simply self-centered, egocentric people; although these characteristics are part of their profile, but these characteristics and so many more to the extreme.
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Hi, you would not be asking that question if you were an narc. Everyone has a certain amount of "healthy" narcissism, that is normal. Unfortunately "narcissism" is a term that is too loosely tossed about these days (albeit they do appear to be on the increase, no idea why) As a result of the term being bandied about so frequently, people become dismissive of a person who can spot an narc a mile away and attempt to warn that person of eminent danger.

Real narcs are extremely dangerous people. Their acts are evil. They lack so much and are so inwardly unhappy, seething, full of hatred. They have the need to cover this up (especially to themselves). They have a desperate need to come across and feel they are superior, they are the walking wounded, if extreme soulless individuals with deep seated lack.

They often seek sympathy and suck it up like Dracula at the blood bank. They cannot get enough narcissistic supply. They have no issue using whoever they can to fulfill their needs but just as quickly dump and in fact denigrate those same generous, kind people when he or she is finished with them.

If you upset them, they may destroy you, at the least you will pay a penalty. A hint of disapproval will inflict narcissistic injury, which will be met with disproportionate reprisals.

Narcs are not simply self-centered, egocentric people; although these characteristics are part of their profile, but these characteristics and so many more to the extreme.
Huh? How do you know all this?

What is a "narc"?

Does your characterization of "narcs" apply to all people who may, or have been, diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder?
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Evil is as evil does.

I think people, no matter their diagnosis or non, want love. It seems it’s the desire for control that is behind these disorders. It’s when a person feels powerless and they grasp for control. They may commit an evil act. But no person is a bad or evil person.

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Default Sep 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM
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Hi, you would not be asking that question if you were an narc. Everyone has a certain amount of "healthy" narcissism, that is normal. Unfortunately "narcissism" is a term that is too loosely tossed about these days (albeit they do appear to be on the increase, no idea why) As a result of the term being bandied about so frequently, people become dismissive of a person who can spot an narc a mile away and attempt to warn that person of eminent danger.

Real narcs are extremely dangerous people. Their acts are evil. They lack so much and are so inwardly unhappy, seething, full of hatred. They have the need to cover this up (especially to themselves). They have a desperate need to come across and feel they are superior, they are the walking wounded, if extreme soulless individuals with deep seated lack.

They often seek sympathy and suck it up like Dracula at the blood bank. They cannot get enough narcissistic supply. They have no issue using whoever they can to fulfill their needs but just as quickly dump and in fact denigrate those same generous, kind people when he or she is finished with them.

If you upset them, they may destroy you, at the least you will pay a penalty. A hint of disapproval will inflict narcissistic injury, which will be met with disproportionate reprisals.

Narcs are not simply self-centered, egocentric people; although these characteristics are part of their profile, but these characteristics and so many more to the extreme.
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Evil is as evil does.

I think people, no matter their diagnosis or non, want love. It seems it’s the desire for control that is behind these disorders. It’s when a person feels powerless and they grasp for control. They may commit an evil act. But no person is a bad or evil person.
Good points. Powerlessness is a scary feeling, a scary situation. People's focus in those instances can be totally on themselves and not the effect of their actions on others. It's been a problem people have been wrestling with for centuries without any easy answers. Maybe if we could talk about these things without demonizing others we might make a little more headway.
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I’m going to echo my last message with a little more detail. I am a diagnosed “narc”. To be honest with you I am simply delightful, plain and simple. To the ones who think we’re all so evil.... Your misinformed!!

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There is no such thing as good and evil. That is merely a concept designed to reward ourselves for being "good" and condemn others for being "evil". People who question if they are bad typically arent. It's those of us who dont care what we are that you might wonder about.
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I guess I feel the need to add a little bit more to the conversation. I do have a tendency to write in the forums without reading much into them lol. I have gone back and done some reading now. I agree with Ivee to a certain extent. Narcissists can be dangerous to be involved with because they don't hold inside what a non would. Lack of others emotional awareness being foremost. Sure once explained can be better understood but most do not get that far. I do disagree when so many people talk on how they can spot a narcissist a mile away. This is something I cannot believe at all. My knowledge of the outside world knowing what I have been for many many years has never been found other than myself. I do know that when I interact with someone like me I usually do not like them. This is my radar for knowing when around other like minded individuals. I believe the ones so many refer to are the "showoffs" the typical profiles one thinks of when they hear the word, not in the diagnosed way. We all learn from one another and we agree to disagree at times. Like to see things here as I have been a way for some time now. Anyway this is my two cents for the month of October. Please enjoy responsibly!!
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I guess I feel the need to add a little bit more to the conversation. I do have a tendency to write in the forums without reading much into them lol. I have gone back and done some reading now. I agree with Ivee to a certain extent. Narcissists can be dangerous to be involved with because they don't hold inside what a non would. Lack of others emotional awareness being foremost. Sure once explained can be better understood but most do not get that far. I do disagree when so many people talk on how they can spot a narcissist a mile away. This is something I cannot believe at all. My knowledge of the outside world knowing what I have been for many many years has never been found other than myself. I do know that when I interact with someone like me I usually do not like them. This is my radar for knowing when around other like minded individuals. I believe the ones so many refer to are the "showoffs" the typical profiles one thinks of when they hear the word, not in the diagnosed way. We all learn from one another and we agree to disagree at times. Like to see things here as I have been a way for some time now. Anyway this is my two cents for the month of October. Please enjoy responsibly!!
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