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Trig May 31, 2017 at 07:14 AM
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I am looking for tips on how to cope with Homicidal thoughts and urges.

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Default May 31, 2017 at 09:23 AM
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I don't have any advise or tips for you aside from therapy and medication. I just wanted to say I'm sorry you're having these thoughts and that I support you. I'm here if you need to talk.

There was another poster on the board with the same issue so you're not alone. Thinking of you.
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Well... there's my old friend I'm always linking members here to... this mental-health-oriented description of the practice of compassionate abiding:

https://mindsetdoc.wordpress.com/201...e-abiding-101/

Beyond that, I think this is probably something you simply need to work through with the help of a skilled therapist. Presumably there are experiences you've had in the past that have stayed with you, perhaps stored in non-conscious areas of your brain, that are causing you to have these homicidal thoughts. I know I struggle with a lot anger as well. So I know it's not pleasant. Physical exercise (walking & yoga) & meditation are helpful for me as well.
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If you feel as though you are in danger of harming someone, I'd seek help. What kind of help exactly? I'm not really sure as I don't know what works best for you. Just because you've not acted on these feelings and impulses yet doesn't mean you won't sometime in the future. I'd nip it in the bud before someone gets hurt. If that happens, you'll have a lot more to worry about than what your dealing with now.

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Trig Mar 29, 2019 at 07:38 AM
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Sorry to bump up this old thread, cause its very relevant to me now.

I used to have homicidal thoughts in the past & present, got warded for it, came out and still dealing with it at the moment.

During a point in time in my life, I also sort of promise myself, if I die I'm not going alone because so many people are attempting to bring me down, upset and anger me, esp the ones living nearby opposite my house.

The frequency and timing of these provocations are enough to set me off. I don't feel any peacefulness here. I feel the need to get rid of them to feel at ease.

It was not manageable in the past, at the moment I'm trying not to get controlled by it, though its difficult.

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Trig Mar 29, 2019 at 07:48 AM
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Everybody has had thoughts of punching someone in the face or killing them when they piss us off but it doesn't mean that we're going to act on it. Just remember where these thoughts are coming from and don't acknowledge them as anything more than just thoughts.

A cognitive behavioral therapist can teach you that whenever you have these hostile thoughts, you can train you mind to transform the negative thought into a positive one. For example, every time you think of killing someone after they make you angry, you can think "I am calm, I am grateful, I am a good person, and they have no power over me."

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Default Apr 03, 2019 at 07:14 AM
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What about bearing grudges over the ones that has been profiting emotionally at your expense?

All the nuisance I've been on the receiving end of, is slowly turning me into a vengeful ticking time bomb.
I'm not really angered, just a strong feeling of injustice and deep down I have this small urge to make them pay dearly by acting out of those thoughts and laugh at their expense even if I end up in jail.

I have a feeling that the urge will consume me sooner or later unless there is someone to talk to and can relate.
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Trig Apr 03, 2019 at 10:07 AM
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Me. I can relate and I'll tell you how I handled it.

I had to accept the feelings I had that contributed to wanting to harm the ones who abused me. That was painful, and it took time for me to heal. But, I healed and the thoughts I had that upset me either went away or lowered in how they affected me. Also, once I got through that pain, I felt happy for the first time in forever.

Do you think that is something you can do?

You need to accept how you were hurt; accepting isn't approving. It is part of your history, your reality. You can't go back and change it.

The major huge issue I faced was that my mother and two sisters almost destroyed me. The abuse was so monstrous, I am brain damaged because of it. I started with thinking I could not believe how evil and vicious they were. It stunned me. It still does to this day, but I am past the pain and crippling depression it caused me.

Another HUGE benefit I experienced when I accepted what they did and how it made me feel was my thinking straightened out. It became easier for me to think clearly. That is huge in of itself.

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My therapist told me that thoughts are just thoughts. When you have a negative thought, you acknowledge it without judgment. Similar to: Hmm, I'm feeling homicidal ideations, that is interesting. Then you carry on. Thoughts are normal, they do not necessarily lead to actions. The problems come from judging yourself, trying to push the thoughts away and ruminating. Acceptance goes a long way towards combating the behaviours that get you stuck.
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I'm so sorry you're hurting so much, raging vortex and stayingafloat! I hope you're feeling a bit better, raging vortex! Please let us know how are you doing and how is it going! Did you learn to cope with all of this! If you did, perhaps it may be useful for others to share it! If you want to do it of course. You have no obligation to do so! I completely agree with what all the others have already wisely said better than I ever could! You've both been given lots of great advice on this thread! I'd suggest to follow it if you can! Do you see a therapist? Maybe that could help. You could both learn new ways to cope with your feelings. I'm so sorry you're both going through all of this. it must be very hard and painful! Please don't give! I completely agree with what all the wonderful people in this thread have already wisely said better than I ever could! Feelings are just what they are. They're feelings. It doesn't make you an horrible person and it doesn't mean that you're going to act on those thoughts! It usually means that you're very angry at someone or something. I'd suggest to start working on that if you can and want! Try to reach out to a professional as soon as you can! I'd suggest to talk to a doctor about this and see how it goes from there! Maybe that could help! You deserve to get the help you need and deserve! You both deserve to get better and to feel good! You both deserve to live an happy, fulflling life just like everyone else does! Anger and Depression CAN be fought and I'm sure that you WILL make it! I promise you that! Just try do your best! That's all you can do after all and it's more than enough! I hope you'll both be able to fight these thoughts and to get through all of this" Remember that you're both stronger than your own thoughts! You CAN fight back! I'm so sorry you have to deal with all fo this, raging vortex and stayingafloat! Keep fighting! We all know you can make it! I'm sure you both know it as well even if it's deep down! Keep fighting and keep trying your best! That's all you can do after all and it's more than enough! You're both, strong, wonderful people! You're both stronger than you believe! Please try to believe in yourselves as much as you can! I hope you'll both be able to believe in yourselves the same way we all believe in both of you! Keep trying! We all care about you here! We all love you here! Feel free to vent and write here as much as you need and want! You know we won't judge you! I promise you that! We all believe in you! You're both strong, wonderful people! You're both awesome, strong warriors! We all know that! I'm sure you know it as well even if it's deeo down! Please remember that!
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Well... there's my old friend I'm always linking members here to... this mental-health-oriented description of the practice of compassionate abiding:

Relieve Distress By Allowing It: Compassionate Abiding 101 | Mindset: Perspective Is Everything

Beyond that, I think this is probably something you simply need to work through with the help of a skilled therapist. Presumably there are experiences you've had in the past that have stayed with you, perhaps stored in non-conscious areas of your brain, that are causing you to have these homicidal thoughts. I know I struggle with a lot anger as well. So I know it's not pleasant. Physical exercise (walking & yoga) & meditation are helpful for me as well.


I do find that growling helps if I’m feeling angry

I also have to comment on the “limited vocabulary” of some providers in this forest (irl)

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Sorry to bump up this old thread, cause its very relevant to me now.

I used to have homicidal thoughts in the past & present, got warded for it, came out and still dealing with it at the moment.

During a point in time in my life, I also sort of promise myself, if I die I'm not going alone because so many people are attempting to bring me down, upset and anger me, esp the ones living nearby opposite my house.

The frequency and timing of these provocations are enough to set me off. I don't feel any peacefulness here. I feel the need to get rid of them to feel at ease.

It was not manageable in the past, at the moment I'm trying not to get controlled by it, though its difficult.
Talk it out with a therapist.

Or here. What have these people (or this one person) done to you?
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Talk it out with a therapist.

Or here. What have these people (or this one person) done to you?
I believed myself to be on the receiving end of an organized social mobbing/gang-stalking. Experienced verbal insults, malicious gossiping, laughing, slandering, imitating, mockery, ridiculing, betrayal, at a ridiculously high frequency for a long period of time. I just don't understand why am I being targeted and set up with these. Society must have hated me somehow and want me destroyed so they can derive amusement from it. They never take me seriously. I feel a strong sense of injustice.

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You should go to a professional as soon as you could.
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Everybody has had thoughts of punching someone in the face or killing them when they piss us off but it doesn't mean that we're going to act on it. Just remember where these thoughts are coming from and don't acknowledge them as anything more than just thoughts.

A cognitive behavioral therapist can teach you that whenever you have these hostile thoughts, you can train you mind to transform the negative thought into a positive one. For example, every time you think of killing someone after they make you angry, you can think "I am calm, I am grateful, I am a good person, and they have no power over me."
A very serious subject, I think this response is a winner. Not to mention, there are both serious consequences for law breaking, including life-long imprisonment and a sentence to a world of violence. Understanding that a common figure of speech is "Oh, I'll kill 'em," or "drop dead", another one I have heard recently, "Go play in traffic," are taken lightly because most people do not harbor intention to harm. But I agree, a therapist can teach how to retrain your thought patterns to allow your mind to let go of those sayings and those feelings, and can teach how to redirect your thoughts into more production actions.

Recently, I have watched Santa Clarita Diet, a Netflix program, which explores the daily struggles of how we deal with the people we surround ourselves with and "killing" and potentially "eating" those who get in our way. A fun plight on living with zombies and what it is like to be the walking dead, also a light time-waster.
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That's not so good. If the problem persists, then you should go to the therapist with it. I hope you have no firearms in your house. If so, then get rid of this please. You never know.

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You should undergo therapy to stop this type of thought.
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