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Default Apr 26, 2018 at 10:47 AM
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I was very lucky that the OD'S i did didn't cause any brain damage though I never had migraines or even headaches before that....thkugh my neuroligist at that time (late 90's) thoughtbfore sure the migraines came from a neck injury years before but made it necessary to have neck fusion.

My major depression got better when I left the bad marriage environment I had lived in for 33 years. It was amazing because without living in the stressful environments, my brain could remember more, learn more & converse better & even realize the emotional connections that had been missing all my life. It was like starting life completely over at the age of 54.....

So what I realized in my situation was that living surrounded by stress all my life was the cause of my problems even though I got my degree & had a computer engineering career for 15 years before the breakdown....it had beem building up to that point all my life. Being free from that environment let the internal me out to be free to be what I always thought life should be like.
I was engaged to be married after six years together. But fortune favours the brave and after a culmination of events I had an epiphany.
There was nothing to look forward to. I didn't want to be one of those mum's who lived their lives through their kids transferring my failures onto their successes. Then they would hate me and wonder why I popped pills and what was wrong with me.
I was going to be like the women at my work who said they wished they had lived their lives before settling down.
His mum would say we would one day get bored with each other and get broody. But with my medication the scientists don't recommend pregnancy. I was in a quandary. Torn between my wishes to have a normal 2.4 children and dog and a "real" job battling against my free spirited desire to see the world and feel like I was really living. In our relationship I felt like I was on the outside looking in. I felt haunted by ghosts of the past that he would never let me get over or forget.
I would have killed myself if I had stayed.
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Torn between my wishes to have a normal 2.4 children and dog
I understand how you felt. I actually had one child. I would NOT compromise beyond that (&I love her & glad I did have her).....but I love my dogs & my 4 legged 3 kid family I have now. I can handle dogs.....not kids

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Default Apr 26, 2018 at 01:16 PM
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Millions of people take psych meds every day and live full lives. I'm sure there are some who have been damaged further by meds, as well as those who thrive on them. I've been on and off several meds for 30 years and if I have brain damage, well, no one has mentioned it. I was...rather "unique" before too, so...

You need to weigh the potential positive effects vs possible negative effects. Thoroughly research any med you are considering taking. Look on forums like this one to get other's opinions on meds. Definitely discuss the pros and cons with your doc.

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Millions of people take psych meds every day and live full lives. I'm sure there are some who have been damaged further by meds, as well as those who thrive on them. I've been on and off several meds for 30 years and if I have brain damage, well, no one has mentioned it. I was...rather "unique" before too, so...

You need to weigh the potential positive effects vs possible negative effects. Thoroughly research any med you are considering taking. Look on forums like this one to get other's opinions on meds. Definitely discuss the pros and cons with your doc.

I hope you find answers and get the help that is most beneficial to you.
I guess i could have damage then.
I've tried so many different meds, stopped and then restarted them.
I read certain meds are more potent and therefore more long term effects or side effects.
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Default Apr 26, 2018 at 08:21 PM
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What is making you think you have damage from the meds. Exactly what are you experiencing that is making you think this?

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Millions of people take psych meds every day and live full lives. I'm sure there are some who have been damaged further by meds, as well as those who thrive on them. I've been on and off several meds for 30 years and if I have brain damage, well, no one has mentioned it. I was...rather "unique" before too, so...

You need to weigh the potential positive effects vs possible negative effects. Thoroughly research any med you are considering taking. Look on forums like this one to get other's opinions on meds. Definitely discuss the pros and cons with your doc.

I hope you find answers and get the help that is most beneficial to you.

I tried to tell my friend not to get hung up on the lists of side effects online from psychotropic drugs. Like you said you have to weigh up the positives and negatives. I know that I need mine and depending on what's going on with my life I am fine taking larger doses or trying to reduce. I have successfully reduced my meds. At 18 I did it with olanzapine as my doctor was encouraging. And when I had a second meltdown my quetiapine was put up. But a year ago I managed to cut the quetiapine and I didn't believe I could do it but I have. And it was not easy and I had to cease my college course. It was health before wealth. If I passed the course which I am positive I would have I could have applied to university. Would I have done something practical? No I would have done something like theology or philosophy.
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Default Apr 27, 2018 at 08:40 AM
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My friends doctor said that mental illness like psychosis will damage brain more than if you take the drugs to prevent it in future.
But these drugs wreak havoc on a person physically so I do not blame anyone for stopping their medication. Its not the fact that weight gain reduces a person's confidence in appearance. Its that it can cause diabetes type two, and puts more strain on the heart. I fear most for my heart. And also fybromyalgia or other adverse effects on nervous system. And obviously the liver is bound to be effected processing pills every night.
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Default Apr 27, 2018 at 08:53 AM
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Another of my friends seems to believe they don't need their medication and that it's just "quack science" but the psychiatrists ARE real doctors who have general medical degrees before they then train in psychology. They have to know how the body works to pescribe medication.
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Default Apr 27, 2018 at 09:00 AM
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Not taking medication because there is a chance when you are sixty five that you may have a physical ailment is like saying I will never go somewhere in my car because there is more chance of dying in a car crash than a plane. Well I don't have a private jet so I will stick with my car!
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Default Apr 27, 2018 at 01:53 PM
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Is there even a method to determine brain damage from meds? Some meds can affect certain systems in the body so I guess it could affect the brain in negative ways too. But I've been in treatment for 30 years and I have never encountered anyone who claimed to have brain damage from meds. Even if it could be proven, I still say the gain probably outweighs losses.

One thing to remember is, with depression you tend to look inward more, and perhaps focus or even fixate on what's going on in your body. If you expect brain damage then I'm sure you will find signs of it. Just the very fact that you have a condition that might need meds or other medical treatment indicates there is already something wrong somewhere.

It's hard to convince someone that is convinced meds will hurt them, otherwise. I'm a believer in getting what ever help you need to get well or just be able to handle living day to day. I know I would have been insane or dead long ago if not for modern medicine.

***I'm pro-meds for me only. It is wonderful if some can recover from other means. It's just that some people read an opinion on the interwebz and take it as fact. RESEARCH, people!

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what i dont understand is the program as a whole ? you talk to a doctor ? a doctor forms an opinion what wrong with you ? gives you meds ? you take meds and keep taking meds ? what until you die ? i feel like i have brain damage from taking this ****. now thats my opinion. i know some have never any problems with these drugs. but when those who do get messed up who is going to fix it ? they never took any blood tests or brain scans before during or after. now i'm disgusted , stressed, pissed, miffed doo doo doo da da da needless to say i'm worse than i was. PILLS ARE NOT THE TOTAL ANSWER ! does this makes sense to anybody else ? what went wrong ?
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Um, sometimes you can have side effects when you first start taking a med that gradually lessen over time. They don't cause actual brain damage or the chances are very slim. I'm much better off taking meds than not and I'll live a longer life if I do continue to take them.
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Default Apr 27, 2018 at 11:48 PM
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In my case i have been on almost every drug imaginable, but i have to say after years of fighting with docs and therpists about going off of them, i am glad i am on them too now. i was so uncontrolable after several car accidents and brain injuries that i didn't realise the drugs were helping until recently. i thank the docs and nursses, the ones that treated me well, there are alot of bad ones out there, as i have found out, but also caring ones to. there is really no turning back in my case and since the meds work im willing to go with it compared to what i was like witht meds. i hope this helps.
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Default May 12, 2018 at 01:32 PM
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too me after taking all these antidepressants my brain just does'nt feel right weather it can be classified as brain damage i dont know ? it feels like a walnut in a shell.all i know is i feel betrayed. let down. why do you think they call them shrinks ? or does'nt the younger generation refer to them as such ?
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I read somewhere mental illness is caused by brain damage.
Or that the meds cause brain damage.
I really hope not.
I want to believe willpower dominates concepts such as biology
But from my experience what has deteriorated me is other people
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I was in a car accident and hit my head prior to losing my mind. I'm certain with no family history of this illness that is what caused it.
It could be coincidence or maybe a factor but I had brain damage about a year before symptoms started to show.
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Default May 28, 2018 at 12:19 AM
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I read somewhere mental illness is caused by brain damage.
Or that the meds cause brain damage.
I really hope not.
Some mental disorders are directly attributable to brain abnormalities (not damage, exactly, but, yes, a human brain damaged as a result of an automobile wreck can cause mental disorders) and it’s likely that neurological abnormalities will, in the future, be found to be the cause of mental illnesses.

I’m sure that some medications can cause damage to the brain but I don’t know of any offhand. Medications can alter brain functions.

I don’t think that you need to worry.

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I want to believe willpower dominates concepts such as biology
But from my experience what has deteriorated me is other people
Maybe I’m misunderstanding you?

Biology isn’t really a ‘concept.’ It’s a science. Concepts are more like ideas that you may have. I’m not clear about how willpower can dominate the science of biology? Are you suggesting that one can fend off biological brain damage by the force of will?

The line from No Exit might appeal to you — “Hell is other people.”

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It could be coincidence or maybe a factor but I had brain damage about a year before symptoms started to show.
Which suggests that mental illness is a result of neurological functions.

I’m riding my high horse with the whole neurological thing.

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Maybe I’m misunderstanding you?

Biology isn’t really a ‘concept.’ It’s a science. Concepts are more like ideas that you may have. I’m not clear about how willpower can dominate the science of biology? Are you suggesting that one can fend off biological brain damage by the force of will?

The line from No Exit might appeal to you — “Hell is other people.”
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Oh that’s not what I meant. What I meant is, don’t let intellectual facts of science and biology dominate you
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