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Old 03-12-2019, 11:22 AM #11
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I suppose the shrink is not god. Anybody can injure another’s brain or remove a head. Simply in the interests of furthering psychiatry’s battlefield or maybe just a missed wage payment. In the hospital where blood is found on the ceiling and walls there was a man whos daily life was so immeasurably terrible. He used to pace up and down and backwards and forwards. He cut a head a head off because he wasn’t paid his due wage. Due to terrible stomach ailments his perhaps temporary illness involving devils of some sort his life has become the most devestating living tragedy. The businessmen who con the newly graduated into ‘helping everyone’. Who cares anyway, it’s a smooth enough operation.
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I am not comfortable painting things with such a wide brush. I also do not think there is a big conspiracy between the government and drug companies. Of course there are profits to consider and that is a market/financial issue that needs to be scrutinized and stabilized. But saying something like antipsychotics shorten a life span by 10 years is very misleading. I would hate for someone on the fence or considering trying medication to read this and take it as the absolute truth.
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Results of a Johns Hopkins study suggest that individuals with schizophrenia are significantly more likely to live longer if they take their antipsychotic drugs on schedule, avoid extremely high doses and also regularly see a mental health professional.

"We know that antipsychotic medications reduce symptoms, and our study shows that staying on reasonable, recommended doses is associated with longer life," says Bernadette A. Cullen, M.B., B.Ch., B.A.O., MRCPsych, an assistant professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, and leader of the study published in Schizophrenia Bulletin. "The same is true for going to see a psychiatrist or therapist," she says, noting that regular visits to a mental health professional are one way to monitor and encourage drug-use compliance, but also in and of themselves increased survival in this vulnerable population.

Cullen and her colleagues analyzed data collected between 1994 through 2004 on 2,132 adult Maryland Medicaid beneficiaries with schizophrenia. The researchers reviewed how much medication the patients took, how regularly they took it and how often they visited a mental health professional. The goal of the study was to review how adherence to the 2009 pharmacological Schizophrenia Patient Outcomes Research Team (PORT) guidelines was associated with mortality in this population.

Comparing data from year to year, the researchers found that among those patients who had 90 percent or better compliance with their medication schedules, the risk of death was 25 percent lower compared to those who were less than 10 percent compliant. Over the decade-long study period, taking medication did not increase the risk of death and there was a trend towards reducing the mortality rate. In addition, the researchers found that each additional visit per year to a mental health professional was linked to a 5 percent reduction in risk of death overall.
"These drugs work very well, but there is clearly a point of diminishing returns," she says. "You rarely need to be on extremely high doses."

Among those whose information was reviewed, the most common cause of death was cardiovascular disease (28 percent); unintended harm, including suicide, was responsible for 8 percent.

"If people are taking their medications, they usually have fewer symptoms and are able to be more organized in other areas of their lives," says Cullen, director of community psychiatry at The Johns Hopkins Hospital. "We believe they are then more likely to make appointments with their primary care doctors, to stay on top of other illnesses they may have and to regularly take diabetes, blood pressure or cholesterol medication that they may require to stay healthy. We also believe that they are more likely to be socially engaged and have a healthier lifestyle."

"If your illness is under control, you can do a lot more," she adds.

Cullen says the study clearly lays out the value of mental health providers to individuals with schizophrenia. Those who saw therapists or psychiatrists were more likely to survive, regardless of whether the individual also took his or her antipsychotic medication on a regular basis, she says.

This finding is crucial, she says, given that Maryland Medicaid officials are considering capping the number of mental health visits allowed each year, something the data now suggest is potentially detrimental to survival.
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Sometimes discomfort causes screaming. Your doctor knows this. He also knows anti psychotics shorten life by about 10 years. Diabetes and terrible shaking might occur he might tell you referring to some Latin words he learned to pronounce in school. During your torment and misery with the world he secretly withholds knowledge about the fuel of your hell. His friend the psychologist picks you apart connecting unconnected events and hands you skinned and ready for serving back to the psych.
The doctor aware your natural defences to ‘mental illness’ are lowered insists you undergo treatment. You are dazzled in the media with statistics claiming mental illness is a worsening condition. Some people get better but most require lifetime care and needles for two years has been shown to be effacious.
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There is not much in pointing fingers at this ‘fact’ or ‘that fact’.
Huge government fundings in MH are used to ‘monitor’ those affected. Hospital ‘upgrades’ amounting to hundreds of millions of pounds are being rolled out. Higher Levels of aggression and hospital detention results from tea and toast queues. Can’t stop em. But needles with ‘medicines’ that creates child like dependency and shorter lives is the game whilst funding ‘improves’ upstairs. It’s like a horror movie- which is an improvement for some. But they are trapped forever in it with the deliberate disregard for stomach.
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In all honesty to date, I have not had a bad doctor or a terrible lawyer. I may count myself extremely fortunate compared to some, especially last week when I was seriously ill with life threatening infections that were swiftly dealt with. The following is a personal account, nothing more. Just a statement of how things went, how I feel.

A good doctor won't try to make you feel like an idiot and mine certainly didn't last week. A doctor's professional relationship with their patient is to build on trust and maintain a nice bedside manner no matter what the situation. But doctors particularly hospital doctors in the UK's NHS will work horribly long hours - yet - are still expected to be on top of their profession. A big problem with some doctors is, they do think they honestly know it all and they have to be right. But the reality is, they can't always be right so they work on the medical evidence of, say, what a patient's blood test reveals and if their markers are good, then they will prescribe the best antibiotic to deal with the infection. All my life I have been beset with a personal illness and each time a doctor has saved my life. I cannot speak badly of my doctor, or the one in my London area. Last week I was very well treated in hospital in the West Country and though very poorly at the time, had to put my trust wholly in the healthcare team working with me. So, three cheers to them!

As for lawyers, their skill depends on what they particularly specialise in; their reputation in court for winning their client's claim. A great lawyer has to see things from the client's point of view, the opposing counsel's point of view and most importantly, what a neutral [judge or jury] will think. An even bigger skill set is to be able to talk to each side with their point of view in mind. In my domestic situation thaty went awfully violent, my lawyer settled a high court case for me with great success against my ex who harrassed, bullied and hit me in pitiless violence.

My lawyer specialised in criminal law. He was gifted with extraordinary observation. He convinced the jury of my ex's thuggishness leaving them in no doubt as to her intentions. His oratory and articulation was fantastic as was his speech and command in the court, convincing the jury. He got into my ex's twisted mindset and attacked her motives so cleverly that she had to be restrained from hitting him. And that is the other reason why I am alive today.
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That’s nice to hear. Happy days. Aww, how sweet.. everything’s just fine isn’t it.
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I’m not sure......

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