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Default Mar 17, 2019 at 05:48 PM
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I haven't seen this documentary you're talking about, so I have to ask:

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I believe that it’s “intolerable suffering” long term .. with no “hope” of “cure”- obviously different people would define this in different ways - mainly physical illnesses but in some cases mental illnesses also.

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This is a very good question,

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Is a doctor the only way FuzzyBear? You said that didn't work for you. That's okay. There are lots of things to try. I wish you peace.
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You are okay FuzzyBear. Take a breath. You aren't horrible. You are okay. Breathe. You are not alone.
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I haven't seen this documentary you're talking about, so I have to ask:
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I would only do it for reasons related to physical health.

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Default Mar 17, 2019 at 05:52 PM
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I haven't seen this documentary you're talking about, so I have to ask:

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I don't know DownandLonely. I thought it was only legal in cases of terminal illness. I have not seen the documentary.
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Default Mar 17, 2019 at 05:54 PM
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Where did that happen Emily? Which country? It's really quite shocking.

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Where did that happen Emily? Which country? It's really quite shocking.
Ack I wanted to hide that stuff ,, can someone help me out, I apparently don't know how to.

I think it was netherlands. It really made me think.
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Ack I wanted to hide that stuff ,, can someone help me out, I apparently don't know how to.

I think it was netherlands. It really made me think.
She had no physical problems, only depression? How old was she? It was chronic?

May she rest in peace.
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She had no physical problems, only depression? How old was she? It was chronic?

May she rest in peace.
I think it was depression (chronic) and no physical problems.

I agree. May she rest in peace.

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Is a doctor the only way FuzzyBear? You said that didn't work for you. That's okay. There are lots of things to try. I wish you peace.
Thank you SilverTrees

I definitely haven’t had much luck with doctors. Understatement Physical issues or psychological

Very complicated and severe allergies to many things, including meds. And other physical stuff (scary)

Other than avoidance, maybe my best “hope” currently of treating anything would (might) be a private therapist or counsellor (we could afford it, but barely)

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How grim is it? I mean I know the sad topic but is it really hard to watch? I'm very sensitive...sometimes sad films can upset me for quite a while. I'm also interested to learn more as someone who has lived with depression since early childhood.
I haven’t watched this either, I’m also very sensitive. But I’m interested in learning more

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You are okay FuzzyBear. Take a breath. You aren't horrible. You are okay. Breathe. You are not alone.
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Default Mar 17, 2019 at 06:35 PM
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I watched the docu. Thank you for the link, Emily. I am still thinking about it and will be for quite some time. For now, I feel humbled. I had no idea that any country had legalized euthanasia for mental illness. And it apparently only takes three appointments with a psychiatrist; if you live in a certain place that is.

I don't know. I'm not sure what to say about it right now.
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I don't know. I'm not sure what to say about it right now.
Yes, prior to seeing it I had been a big euthanasia proponent but afterward I had some lingering doubts. Goes to show how you can think something is good in theory but in practice, have some real doubts.
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Yes, prior to seeing it I had been a big euthanasia proponent but afterward I had some lingering doubts. Goes to show how you can think something is good in theory but in practice, have some real doubts.
Yes, I find it very complicated. I have doubts too. I feel differently about euthanasia for terminal illness versus mental illness.
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Default Mar 19, 2019 at 06:59 AM
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OP...... how do you know you’ll even make it to 50 ? I’ve felt the same way many others have said. You can age physically but mentally stay young. In a way that kinda sucks because you can’t physically do what your mind wants to !
I found mentalization , ( staying in the moment) , helps get me through.
I don’t want to think about certain past occurrences and I certainly can’t foresee the future. (Possible trigger: I just want to say one thing about suicide . I didn’t create myself so what gives me the right to end myself prior to nature’s calling ?)
Sometimes you just have to plug along in life. Sometimes YOU have to make good things happen.
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Default Mar 19, 2019 at 08:43 AM
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I don't have a set age. I guess for me it's more about being in decent shape physically and mentally. Also, it would be terrible to be old and not have enough money to support myself.


Our landlord who lives next door is well into her 90s, senile, going blind and is pretty much deaf. She can barely get around. She's been declining for years but is still alive. Honestly, she should probably not be living alone. I wouldn't want to be that age if it meant living in that state for years. Same with an ex-friend's dad who is about the same age and bedridden with severe dementia.


Then, on the other hand you have this guy that was a goalkeeper for our national football team, Sergio Livingstone. After his playing career was over, he worked as a sports commentator. He died at 92, and was well enough physically and mentally to work up until a few weeks before his death. Living long in a situation like that, would be okay, I think. It doesn't seem like finances were a problem for him either.
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Wishing everyone the best, in the NOW.....


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Default Mar 19, 2019 at 02:52 PM
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Believe me, 50 is young. I've thought that I at least want to live into my mid eighties.

I personally don't think we should pick a perfect age to die because we won't know how healthy we'll be then and what our life circumstances will be then.
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