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Default Feb 17, 2020 at 07:38 PM
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Hey guys,

I am 25 years old with no known physical health problems (I have had depression on and off and I have social anxiety disorder however) and have had an ongoing issue where I constantly feel tired and lethargic (I sometimes can’t even stand to wait for the bus and kneel instead because I feel light headed). I feel better when I take vyvanse (a stimulant) but I don’t have adhd diagnosed (they prescribed without a diagnosis to see if it would help for my attention).

I am wondering what is wrong with me? Why do I feel like collapsing without vyvanse or an antidepressant? Is there a health problem or is this depression which never really goes away? I have never heard of this happening and I’m it’s been happening to me since I was 13
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Big-time fatigue is common with depression. Do you possibly need a higher dose of Vyvanse? Or more help with your depression?

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I'm not a medical nor a mental health professional. So I can't offer anything substantive with regard to this. I presume you've had yourself thoroughly checked out medically. If not that would certainly be important I would think. Here are links to 2 articles, from PC's archives, that offer tips for dealing with the overwhelming fatigue of depression plus a link to an article that discusses conditions that feel like depression but aren't :

5 Tips for Dealing with the Overwhelming Fatigue of Depression

5 More Tips for Dealing with the Overwhelming Fatigue of Depression

6 Conditions that Feel Like Clinical Depression but Aren't


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Big-time fatigue is common with depression. Do you possibly need a higher dose of Vyvanse? Or more help with your depression?
Thanks for your help. It’s just odd because i feel like even when I’m having good happy periods, I still have this problem with exhaustion.
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I'm not a medical nor a mental health professional. So I can't offer anything substantive with regard to this. I presume you've had yourself thoroughly checked out medically. If not that would certainly be important I would think. Here are links to 2 articles, from PC's archives, that offer tips for dealing with the overwhelming fatigue of depression plus a link to an article that discusses conditions that feel like depression but aren't :

Thanks for your help. I will take a look through these articles
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Default Feb 17, 2020 at 09:43 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that, it is really awful to run out of energy.

I have been dealing with major depression for many years, and I feel tired all the time too... I want to lay down as soon as I can - if I could, I would live on my bed! Maybe you could check with your doctor if the depression is back.

I stopped antidepressants because it increased the fatigue even more, and I got a bit better when I started exercising. Another thing is not getting enough sleep, so if you have insomnia like me then it could explain part of the problem. And last, I just started a diet this week since my doctor suggested that cutting heavy foods could improve my energy levels too. I know we tend to be skeptical about simple lifestyle changes, but maybe it could help you even if combined with medication.

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Have you seen a doctor? You should have bloodwork done to start with.

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Default Feb 19, 2020 at 01:40 AM
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If you haven't had a good workup have one ,especially your thyroid ,and heart .

Also by any chance do you snore ? Things like sleep apnea can be silently sabotaging your day every night .

I am not a licensed doctor,dont play one on tv ,and havent slept at certain hotel chain ,but saying your healthy is very generic ,proving your healthy can mean it's nothing obvious. Call me paranoid ( but before you do please know I am a card carrying member of the club nobody asks to join "=!Rare disease" , so rare I am the only person known on earth with it ,so I can be paranoid with a pedigree, I was in Emergency Services as a career before my heath went south ,and the union retired me )

So really honestly try talking to a doctor and getting labs run and check your heart , sure it could be easily explained by a trained physician as possibly depression related or it could be something that escapes easy detection like a heart arrhythmia, your normal is pretty abnormal for most people ,and I think feeling like this for more then 10 years ,you deserve a better answer ,than any of us can G,so
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Your tiredness, lethargy and general feelings of constantly needing rest could be attributed to having an under-active thyroid gland. If your doctor diagnoses hypothyroidism, then he will get your thyroid hormone levels back on track, though he may first refer you to an an endocrinologist. An endocrinologist can diagnose your hormone levels and make a decision on how to treat you. It sounds anxiety-making, but I assure you it's not.

I urge you to see your doctor and ask for some blood tests, also bring a sample of your urine taken first thing after waking. The reason for this is for your doctor to determine whether you may have diabetes. A blood test can also determine a vitamin D deficiency. It's astonishing what blood tests can determine anyway, but try not to worry when a phlebotomist nurse takes your blood samples. She'll say it's just a "little scratch" when the needle goes in, and then the nurse can take multiple samples just from the one.

Another request is your asking to have electrocardiography known as an ECG/EKG. This is carried out on an electrocardiogram. It's a machine that measures your heart's electrical activity. They will attach sensors to your body from which multi-coloured wires are plugged into a machine. It's totally painless and you won't feel a thing, not even a slight tingle. These can be taken either when you're lying down or sitting up.

Lastly, have no fear of doctors. They regularly see lots and lots of patients throughout their working day. A doctor will be patient with you, and be first to put you at ease when these tests are taken.

I hope you feel better soon and will be thinking of you.

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I wouldn't go to my doctors asking them to run a bunch of tests. They evaluate what tests to run based on your symptoms, and what they observe during your doctor visit. Plus, it's off putting to tell your doctor what you think they should do. Not all doctors are good physicians, just like any other field. Their title doesn't mean they know everything and are always accurate.

Can you see another doctor to get another opinion? Does anyone you know have a good doctor they are happy with? Or who to stay away from?

I went to several different doctors for a number of years, looking for answers for my own chronic fatigue and pain. After a couple of years doing that, a rheumatolgist diagnosed me with Connective Tissue Disorder. I have an autoimmune disorder, it also includes several other health problems like rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia and a bunch of other fun medical problems.

My fatigue has improved over the years because I face the issues that fuel my depression as thoroughly as possible, on my own. It has taken a long time, but I see improvements almost daily. But, that is my situation, I am not saying it is yours.

Misterpain mentioned sleep apnea, that's a big problem that shows up in daily fatigue, along with thyroid problems, and other medical disorders.

I hope you find a good doctor who can help you determine what is going on and help you get better. Chronic fatigue is awful; I have had days where I could not sit up straight in a chair.

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I deal with chronic fatigue too. In my case, it is due to major depressive disorder. I get bloodwork done regularly, but my hormone levels are ok. When my anti-depressants are working I feel much better. But I also seem to need more sleep than most people. I don't know if that's due to depression or something else. I hope you can see a doctor to get some tests run.
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Hey guys,

I am 25 years old with no known physical health problems (I have had depression on and off and I have social anxiety disorder however) and have had an ongoing issue where I constantly feel tired and lethargic (I sometimes can’t even stand to wait for the bus and kneel instead because I feel light headed). I feel better when I take vyvanse (a stimulant) but I don’t have adhd diagnosed (they prescribed without a diagnosis to see if it would help for my attention).

I am wondering what is wrong with me? Why do I feel like collapsing without vyvanse or an antidepressant? Is there a health problem or is this depression which never really goes away? I have never heard of this happening and I’m it’s been happening to me since I was 13
Maybe this will help: "People who take Vyvanse may feel tired or irritable or have other symptoms several hours after taking the drug. This is sometimes called Vyvanse crash or Vyvanse comedown. Read on to learn why Vyvanse crash can happen and what you can do to help prevent it." Vyvanse Crash: What You Need to Know

I would not recommend anyone take a drug without an understanding of why someone thinks you need it, what the side effects are likely to be, what to do if you have adverse effects, what the long term consequences of taking the drug are, and what the risk of addiction is.

I can tell you from my own experience that a constant feeling of stress can make a person feel very tired. I don't think in that case, an amphetamine is the answer. But I am not a doctor, nor a pharmacist. Whoever your primary care physician is should work with your therapist to help you pinpoint the areas that are ruining your quality of life. You are the agent to get that ball rolling.
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I'm not a medical nor a mental health professional. So I can't offer anything substantive with regard to this. I presume you've had yourself thoroughly checked out medically. If not that would certainly be important I would think. Here are links to 2 articles, from PC's archives, that offer tips for dealing with the overwhelming fatigue of depression plus a link to an article that discusses conditions that feel like depression but aren't :

5 Tips for Dealing with the Overwhelming Fatigue of Depression

5 More Tips for Dealing with the Overwhelming Fatigue of Depression

6 Conditions that Feel Like Clinical Depression but Aren't


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