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Default Jul 25, 2020 at 04:07 PM
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Frankly, he does this right before his new albums "drop." I think he's acting this way to bring attention to his music. While he may be bipolar, you can't really trust that his actions are genuine. I mean, he and Kim K. both created their careers by doing outrageous things to get attention.

What I find hilarious, is that he is not officially on the ballot in north carolina so technically he is NOT really running for president. It was all just a publicity stunt, don't you think?

If he really is having a bipolar episode, then his friends who flew out to visit him in Wyoming are just enabling him, like Kim K has been doing for their whole marriage.

He needs someone to stand up to him and force him to take medication and force him to do time as an inpatient.

Good point on his behavior being a publicity stunt. I'd not thought of that, but it sure makes sense - and could be the reason no one close to him does get him into treatment.

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Default Jul 25, 2020 at 05:29 PM
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I'm really embarrassed for him and for myself. My Sister was like if you wanted to run for Scotland's First Minister or UK Peime Minister we would be contacting your team. It myst be different here but you need degrees in politics to run for that sort of stuff I think you can run for a local Councillor I think anyone can do that but above that station no.

He needs serious help and why on earth his family and team behind him are encouraging this type of delusion is beyond me. From someone who suffers from psychosis if this was me hope my support network would be citing reasons why itsnot avoid idea and if I didn't listen then follow the care plan.

I just hope he gets the help he needs soon. He needs love and understanding not judgement especially from the cruel world of media and social media
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Default Jul 26, 2020 at 02:28 PM
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Most of us who get really manic like this end either arrested or in the ER eventually. Watching him, would not be at all surprised to see him get in a fight or something. Happens every day

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Default Jul 26, 2020 at 02:37 PM
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In my opinion, it’s very tricky.... he clearly has a mental illness that needs attention but what do you do if you have a grown man who is not a risk/danger to himself or others? He cannot be forced to take his medications so his wife really has no say there....
He has said before that he is more creative without his medication but it seems that this is when he is at his absolute worst. What makes this dangerous is that he has money, and he is famous. So not only will those who are “ working on his campaign “ buy into his delusions, they’ll encourage them because they get paid... and the competition will also encourage it so that they can receive more votes orrr votes will be wasted on him all while kanye thinks he is being validated by the “points” he’s trying to make, not because theyre exploiting him...
it’s a really sad situation because not everyone who suffers this way, acts this way. It’s just a really bad situation made worse by his popularity and money....
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In my opinion, it’s very tricky.... he clearly has a mental illness that needs attention but what do you do if you have a grown man who is not a risk/danger to himself or others? He cannot be forced to take his medications so his wife really has no say there....
He has said before that he is more creative without his medication but it seems that this is when he is at his absolute worst. What makes this dangerous is that he has money, and he is famous. So not only will those who are “ working on his campaign “ buy into his delusions, they’ll encourage them because they get paid... and the competition will also encourage it so that they can receive more votes orrr votes will be wasted on him all while kanye thinks he is being validated by the “points” he’s trying to make, not because theyre exploiting him...
it’s a really sad situation because not everyone who suffers this way, acts this way. It’s just a really bad situation made worse by his popularity and money....
Having lived with 700 dangerous mentally ill people for 5 years, the problem is he cld go from safe to holding a weapon at any moment. Happens every day. Happened to me. Not a weapon. Car crash. But same concept. For this reason, in my opinion mania is a psychiatric emergency. Unless u r some super hi level longtime bp patient with years of insight like we have here on PC, he is in fact a danger rt now. Just my take.

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The unfortunate part is that he is a famous, wealthy celebrity. He has enablers around him who won't enforce the proper boundaries because it could end their career. His wife is too deluded and too self-obsessed to take any real action against him either, b/c it would be bad for her public image.

I agree with bpcyclist that he is a danger to himself and others, especially to his young children. Add to his public rants and tweets, his new album is coming out so part of this could all be one huge publicity stunt too, to keep the Kardashian name relevant and keep Kanye West on top of the music charts.

I still think his music sucks. And I still have no respect or sympathy for him or his family b/c of the way he shrugs off any responsibility for his mental health. He is a terrible father figure and a terrible role model to his fans who have mental illness like bipolar disorder. He is a smug, arrogant, delusional celebrity whose bottom line is how much money he can make off his multiple ventures.

There are other famous people who have bipolar disorder who are far better at handling their mental illness and are great role models. One of my favorite actresses has bipolar disorder - Catherine Zeta Jones. She is a great actress and has suffered with bipolar disorder for years. Yet, she takes medication for it, and isn't in the public eye causing chaos and recording crazy rants like Kanye West does for attention. She is very low key and when asked about her BP, she is very down to earth and honest about it.
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Having lived with 700 dangerous mentally ill people for 5 years, the problem is he cld go from safe to holding a weapon at any moment. Happens every day. Happened to me. Not a weapon. Car crash. But same concept. For this reason, in my opinion mania is a psychiatric emergency. Unless u r some super hi level longtime bp patient with years of insight like we have here on PC, he is in fact a danger rt now. Just my take.

That’s fair, but I’m just saying there must be some reason they have not forced him into any type of treatment as this is not the first time he’s done this. So yes while it is a potential danger, is it enough to strip him of his rights? Like saying you’re being stalked.. yes there’s immediate danger but if the person isn’t threatening you or harming you, will police still arrest them? I 100% agree he needs help, I’m just saying there is a failure of the people around him to take action and that makes it difficult to get him the proper treatment he needs which only makes it worse:/... i really do hope they can do something about it because it no doubt affects his family.
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That’s fair, but I’m just saying there must be some reason they have not forced him into any type of treatment as this is not the first time he’s done this. So yes while it is a potential danger, is it enough to strip him of his rights? Like saying you’re being stalked.. yes there’s immediate danger but if the person isn’t threatening you or harming you, will police still arrest them? I 100% agree he needs help, I’m just saying there is a failure of the people around him to take action and that makes it difficult to get him the proper treatment he needs which only makes it worse:/... i really do hope they can do something about it because it no doubt affects his family.
Right and this where in the US now, the convo about civil commitment arises. For the record, I find Kendra's Law hideous, but I also think it is too hard to commit some clearly dangerous people in other states. It is really tough issue to sort.

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That’s fair, but I’m just saying there must be some reason they have not forced him into any type of treatment as this is not the first time he’s done this. So yes while it is a potential danger, is it enough to strip him of his rights? Like saying you’re being stalked.. yes there’s immediate danger but if the person isn’t threatening you or harming you, will police still arrest them? I 100% agree he needs help, I’m just saying there is a failure of the people around him to take action and that makes it difficult to get him the proper treatment he needs which only makes it worse:/... i really do hope they can do something about it because it no doubt affects his family.
Are you actually defending stalkers in your analogy?!? Unbelievable!

The only reason Kanye West is not hospitalized is because of the power his celebrity affords him. That is the only reason he’s not in the hospital. He is a very dangerous person as his past action has shown in the public eye. But celebrity culture is full of vapid, disingenuous, shallow people.

The Kardashians will not confront Kanye West because they are all about their own public celebrity image. This is why Prince and other famous celebrities all died of an overdose. Even their own family and friends and fellow celebrities were afraid to say no to them.

Stalkers are completely different animal. Those are mentally ill people who are dangerous even when a restraining order is held against them. And police do track them down and arrest them. Do not even dare compare stalkers to celebrities. What an awful analogy.
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