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Anyone who has had dog trauma could possibly be triggered.. just an FYI...

Is it a media thing? I hear many pitbull owners say its all a media thing that you only hear the bad things about pitbulls. They say that little dogs are actually the worst. I do not read about little dogs killing their owners though. There was this woman around here that was wonderful and had the sweetest pitbulls, friendly and everything.
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Personally I am scared of them but I was attacked and "locked down" when I was playing with one when I was ten.
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but didn't bite down but it scared the crap out of me and I have been afraid ever since. What do you all think? I think a lot of it can be irresponsible ownership too. Oftentimes you will hear that a yard was not secure or the pitbull wasnt on a leash or got away from the owner but still... they are scary dogs and they are one of the few breeds that seem to
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My dad had two pitbulls and 3 cats. All grew up together and loved each other. The cats didnt take any crap from them and ran the house. He came home one day
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and he had no idea why.
What are your thoughts?
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Default Re: Are pitbulls really dangerous dogs or is all of that hype? (dog attack reference)

Irresponsible people lead to different breeds being branded as "bad." At one point Dobermans had a bad rep. Then Rottweilers. Now it's pit bulls. Part of it is indiscriminate breeding of the dogs. Part of it is people who mistreat the animals to make them big and bad.

The breed was created for "bull baiting" in Britain. The dogs were put in a ring (pit) with a bull to harass it for hours on end. Pits are a terrier breed. Terriers by their nature are tenacious. Today there are dogs labeled as pit bulls, when in reality they are a mishmash of all sorts of breeds.

My BG (Big Goof) was labeled a pit bull by animal control when I adopted him. My vet and I think he is part pit, part bull dog, part boxer, part Dalmatian and part some kind of hound. He is a big old goof with people. He is afraid of my cats after Mikey (cat) smacked him in the face. On the flip side, he loves to chase lizards and snakes. He's killed several snakes. Killed a skunk. Kills rats in the barn. He is obsessed with the gopher tortoises on the property. I trust him with people, but not other animals because of this.

My answer to your question about whether it's media hype or actual bad behavior by some of the dogs is that I believe it is some of both. I know some absolutely sweet, loving and lovable pits. And stories about dogs killing people sells newspapers.

For another interested in the truth about the breed, I recommend the book "Lost Dogs." It's the story of the dogs Michael Vick had on his property. Of the 52 dogs rescued only two had to be destroyed. One was a female who was bred so many times her health was so badly damaged the kind thing was to put her down. The other was a male who fought so many times he'd been made vicious. The others went on to be pets, therapy dogs, or live out their lives at Best Friends rescue.
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Default Re: Are pitbulls really dangerous dogs or is all of that hype? (dog attack reference)

I have owned and fostered many pit bulls and they are always the sweetest, most laid back dogs...far less likely to bite than my border collie.

There are many reasons why dogs attack. You do hear more about pit bulls because of media hype. Statistically speaking, if you look up actual reported statistics of dog bites, it's smaller dogs that have a greater incidence of biting. Of course a larger dog will do more damage. That's just anatomy.

Many of the dogs that are labeled as pits are not even pits. Many of them have been cross bred with other breeds and then not raised in accordance with that breed's characteristics. Pitbulls are actually medium sized to small dogs. Often we see "pits" that have actually been cross bred with labs or often mastiffs, making them seem like large, ferocious dogs.

Having volunteered in animal rescue for a long time and fostered many a pit bull, I've more often been growled at and snapped at by a small breed dog than a pit. The pits tend to be big babies that just want to cuddle.

That said, most often the reports you see of dogs biting children were unsupervised children playing with a dog when the dog gave MANY warnings, but the adult humans were just too stupid to notice it. Every day I see ppl sharing "cute" videos on Facebook of babies and children crawling all over the family dog, while the family dog stress pants, licks its lips, shows whale eyes, and tries to even get away. And yet no one does anything to relieve the dog's stress. So when the dog finally "corrects" the child by nipping at it (which is how dogs correct each other) the poor family dog that gave LOTS of warning gets put down.

This is human error, not dog error.

Yes, some dogs are too damaged to rescue. It happens. But that's actually pretty rare.

Bottom line, you should never be leaving your dog unsupervised with your child.
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Default Re: Are pitbulls really dangerous dogs or is all of that hype? (dog attack reference)

Maybe off-topic but I've been bitten once by a dog (I don't know the breed) and three times by humans--once bad enough to have stitches and I was only 9 days old at the time. Two other times by humans left teeth marks through clothing. Who really needs to be protected by whom? Kit
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Default Re: Are pitbulls really dangerous dogs or is all of that hype? (dog attack reference)

I don't feel safe with any dogs but if I had a choice I'd rather have one that has a weak bite and wasn't bred to fight and kill than one with increased jaw strength that has been bred for the purpose of being vicious (and is often kept by aggressive people as a status symbol and tool of intimidation and for use in dog fights). I agree that the owner has a huge responsibility too but it's like choosing to have a bear as a pet instead of a hamster, even if the owner treats the hamster badly and it gets vicious it can't do as much harm as the bear that only has to snap once and it can kill.
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Just an FYI about Michael Vick- after he was released from prison for his dog fighting, he fessed up and said he would do it again if it were possible. No remorse whatsoever. And for what? The man was making millions, it's not like he needed money.
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Default Re: Are pitbulls really dangerous dogs or is all of that hype? (dog attack reference)

We have to take into account that so many people are bad dog parents and I was one of them not exercising my dogs enough. No biting, no horrible behavior. But still.
as posters here have stated, you have to take into account what they were bred for or in the case of mixes (and most pit bulls today are not true pits which are a smaller dog as posters have mentioned. Almost all the ones you see today are mixes, mostly mixed way back with stafforshire terriers, which makes them a medium sized dog). Pits can be dog aggressive or animal aggressive because they were bred to fight. I have seen news stories about pit mixes saving peoples lives too. If you want to adopt a pit mix, watch pit bulls and parolees a show about a pit mix rescue. Remember that the woman that runs the rescue in the reality series is a pit bull advocate. She herself was an animal trainer (tigers at one time) and always makes sure that the dogs go to a good home where the animal will have proper accommodations and treatment. She herself states that some of the beautiful gray ones were overbred so she sees more serious problems with them-a few of them, not all. Do research your breed or breeds. And dogs need to be walked if you donít want bad behavior even if you have a yard.
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Just an FYI about Michael Vick- after he was released from prison for his dog fighting, he fessed up and said he would do it again if it were possible. No remorse whatsoever. And for what? The man was making millions, it's not like he needed money.
After being ordered by the court to never have another dog Vick got dogs again after his release from prison. His "rationale" was that it wasn't fair that his kids could not have a dog. The man is evil.

Should have put this in my other post - the first few chapters of "Lost Dogs" are disturbing and could be triggery. They discuss what some of the dogs went through on his property.
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I have been around 2 pit bulls. One was being fostered and then was eventually adopted by my former next door neighbor. He was so aggressive they had to get a dog whisper involved. He would viscously attack the fence and try to get at my dog whenever they were in the yard at the same time. For some reason my stupid neighbor would always let her dog in the yard at the same time as mine despite her dog being aggressive towards mine.

Then the guy behind us has a pitbull who is also pretty aggressive. When the guy was talking to us one time the dog was yanking at the leash and growling at my mom and I and lunging towards us. The guy had good control on the leash so we didnít feel threatened or anything. But that guy has to be careful with that dog.

Iíve heard they can be very good dogs, but I havenít experienced that.
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