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Old 11-06-2019, 08:53 PM   #1
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There is a branch of therapy you are not likely to hear of here. If I'm wrong plz correct me. That is spirit releasement. My point is that for psychotherapy to advance it's necessary for many more therapists to look into it. There is a lot written and with videos on the subject, a lot of it not worth much but there are a few highly educated persons/authors in high positions that do this kind of work with clients who have all kinds of mental afflictions. Brian Weiss, Edith Fiore just to mention two. Stafford Betty is another. Many professionals don't accept spirit possession or attachment but that's because they are just not informed. At least that's the impression I get. Spirit attachment theory goes way back to before the time of Jesus. The Bible states in many places how He cast out devils. It works like this-Some people when they die don't want to give up their earthly lives-for any of several reasons. In one case the brother of a lady friend of mine took his own life. For some time afterwards she was being 'haunted' by him in night visions, even during the day. I don't want to intrude and ask about it. It's just too sensitive but I wish I could. I suppose the brother was regretting his act and wanted to atone for it but now it was too late. Or he was just afraid in his spirit mind which by the way is in his case the same mind as when in his flesh body. Afraid he'd go to hell so he clung to earthlife and his sister. Hopefully he was rescued. Odd as it seems some don't realize they've died so they try to go through their old motions while on earth. Some deal with addictions, some with vengeance- and when they give up the body they still won't let go of their cravings for drugs, drink, food, sex whatever or the desire to torment someone. They hang around earth people who have the same addictions, draining energy, causing depression etc. In essence spirit release therapists will talk in the presence of their client to the attaching entity and explain things to them, how a much better life awaits them if they just give up their attachment to the person. Not to say All cases involve spirit attachment. But apparently many do. And it's not hard to see the logic in this-that when the personality survives bodily death, after a troubled life, they may not want to let go of what they had on earth. Maybe they think the earthly life is all there is. So if the therapist can convince the earth bound spirit to turn away from the earthlife and go into the light (as corny as that may sound) and or be receptive to loved ones who have come to help him or her then the suffering person on earth life is quickly cured of the problem.
I recommend reading Edith Fiore's books as she explains it well along with how to deal with it in your own life. I hope I don't alarm anyone. As Fiore says she feels most all of us at some time in our lives have spirits hanging on to us, causing distress. So if you get drunk a lot you are going to attract these kind of earthbound spirits. If you get into screaming arguments. . . We just don't understand it or realize it. And as she says, she herself is not totally convinced but as a working hypothesis spirit release therapy works.
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There is a branch of therapy you are not likely to hear of here. If I'm wrong plz correct me. That is spirit releasement. My point is that for psychotherapy to advance it's necessary for many more therapists to look into it. There is a lot written and with videos on the subject, a lot of it not worth much but there are a few highly educated persons/authors in high positions that do this kind of work with clients who have all kinds of mental afflictions. Brian Weiss, Edith Fiore just to mention two. Stafford Betty is another. Many professionals don't accept spirit possession or attachment but that's because they are just not informed. At least that's the impression I get. Spirit attachment theory goes way back to before the time of Jesus. The Bible states in many places how He cast out devils. It works like this-Some people when they die don't want to give up their earthly lives-for any of several reasons. In one case the brother of a lady friend of mine took his own life. For some time afterwards she was being 'haunted' by him in night visions, even during the day. I don't want to intrude and ask about it. It's just too sensitive but I wish I could. I suppose the brother was regretting his act and wanted to atone for it but now it was too late. Or he was just afraid in his spirit mind which by the way is in his case the same mind as when in his flesh body. Afraid he'd go to hell so he clung to earthlife and his sister. Hopefully he was rescued. Odd as it seems some don't realize they've died so they try to go through their old motions while on earth. Some deal with addictions, some with vengeance- and when they give up the body they still won't let go of their cravings for drugs, drink, food, sex whatever or the desire to torment someone. They hang around earth people who have the same addictions, draining energy, causing depression etc. In essence spirit release therapists will talk in the presence of their client to the attaching entity and explain things to them, how a much better life awaits them if they just give up their attachment to the person. Not to say All cases involve spirit attachment. But apparently many do. And it's not hard to see the logic in this-that when the personality survives bodily death, after a troubled life, they may not want to let go of what they had on earth. Maybe they think the earthly life is all there is. So if the therapist can convince the earth bound spirit to turn away from the earthlife and go into the light (as corny as that may sound) and or be receptive to loved ones who have come to help him or her then the suffering person on earth life is quickly cured of the problem.
I recommend reading Edith Fiore's books as she explains it well along with how to deal with it in your own life. I hope I don't alarm anyone. As Fiore says she feels most all of us at some time in our lives have spirits hanging on to us, causing distress. So if you get drunk a lot you are going to attract these kind of earthbound spirits. If you get into screaming arguments. . . We just don't understand it or realize it. And as she says, she herself is not totally convinced but as a working hypothesis spirit release therapy works.
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interesting idea, that said I know any treatment providers that I see don't go along with this simply because its a religion thing and most if not all mental disorder diagnostics here state the problems cant be because of things like religious practices. this not only prevents my treatment provider from diagnosing whether or not the spirit or ghost is possessing my body but also prevents my treatment provider from treating such and issue. for this kind of thing here in the USA people generally talk with their religious person such as a priest / reverend/ rabi/ and others of the religious professions.

my suggestion is if you feel you are being possessed by a spirit or ghost contact your local churches administrators who can help you with this.
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Thank you so much for the link and for this topic.

I have been in and out of therapy for more than 55 years. I've tried very hard to "do the work" and get at the root of my issues. I have absolutely felt possessed and was diagnosed with DDNOS about 10 years ago. I have come to understand the "demons" as "parts" of me and I have pretty good control of what they do but I still very evil sometimes and, consequently, miserable. The last therapy ended after 6 years when the therapist said she "didn't have the emotional resources" to continue. I have given up on traditional mental health treatment providers.

About 15 years ago I was very concerned about feeling possessed and did contact a priest about exorcism and an another Christian counselor, but neither were very helpful.

I'll look into Edith Fiore's work. Thanks.
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