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Default Oct 20, 2019 at 03:35 AM
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One of my triggers is pot. Other triggers are those who use illegal drugs. But what I want to discuss is this pot business.

I'm all for legalizing it, even though it is a trigger. I'm all for its medicinal purposes.

I just can't stand the smell, the way people act from it, and the symbolic reasons that trigger my memories of being attacked physically and sexually. I don't like pot.

My boundary for most of my friends who do pot is that I cannot be around them when they do it. Most respect my boundaries, some get offended (I don't mean to offend anyone), and some joke and tell me that if anyone should need medicinal pot it was me, because of my PTSD.

I don't care if they paid me money, I would never want to be prescribe pot. It's a trigger. I don't want to be desensitized by it either. I don't want it for PTSD because it would make my PTSD and DID worse.

It's okay if you laugh at me, because pot is popular and it's everywhere.

I just feel helpless. I know I may be over-reacting, but not everyone is sweet and kind on that drug.

That's all I want to say.

I hope I didn't offend anyone.

I have friends who are still my friends who do pot, but they know my boundaries and respect them.

I try not to be biased. It's hard though. It's a trigger I have to get used to, but I refuse to be around it.

I had some friends who hated my cigarette smoking, so I'd do what I could to respect their boundaries, too. Thus, I know what it is like to be on the other end of someone else's boundaries.

It is another humiliating trigger I have to explain when getting to know people, that is, when I state my boundaries. I won't go into detail here why it is triggering, but just that it is triggering. I don't even recall the exact memories that led me to feel this way. I just know I cannot handle being around it.

I hope this makes sense.
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Default Oct 20, 2019 at 07:38 AM
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Once in a while i partake in pot and all it does to me is make me happy and tired. All depends on the strain. I smoke cigarettes and will go outside as well.I can not handle drunk people and would prefer they do not with me...so guess we all have our vices
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No last year I tried to take pot for the first time ever. It make me super anxious and miserable. Now I can't stand the smell.
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No last year I tried to take pot for the first time ever. It make me super anxious and miserable. Now I can't stand the smell.
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So sorry that you had a negative reaction from that drug.
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I just remembered a time when my ex and I watched the movie Pineapple Express. I was triggered by the pot mentions and him smoking it next to me, but he got me to laugh at the movie. The poor dog in the movie was addicted, I think.

I felt nauseas the whole time though. I remained sober while my ex was on that stuff.

What triggers me is a past trauma. I am on my cell right now, so I do not have the ability to use bb code for triggers. I will explain more later.
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Default Oct 22, 2019 at 08:20 PM
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I tried it a hundred years ago in college and promptly had a massive panic attack. That was that. I also don't want to offend anyone, but I personally think it's pretty dangerous, especially for anyone with any kind of a mental health issue or potential mental health issue. Growing and using it is a huge business in my state and so people generally think I'm boring and stuffy here. But I've seen and known of too many people with mental illness issues who have had really, really bad reactions to pot, including ending up psychotic in the hospital or with a first-ever diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. Sorry. I guess I'm boring.

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Default Oct 22, 2019 at 08:42 PM
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I assume they are doing studies but wish they had done more before "recreationalizing it". IMO there have been enough study results to use it medically. Unfortunately--it is not even being incorporated medically in very smart ways yet on balance. We are so behind the curb because of stigma. Yes it can be dangerous. So is my Xanax, all the Oxycotin and Percoset I was on when I was in the hospital in 2015 and so are so many other drugs....As far as it causing schizophrenia, anxiety, etc--was it the trigger or was that something that was already within but was just brought to the surface more obviously? And do the effects wear off when you stop?? I am not sure. All possible.
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For me, the drug pot (and any illegal and/or mind-altering drug causing maladaptive behavioral changes), triggers me because I
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. I'm not speaking out against the use of pot. I'm just triggered by it. I'm not making an argument against the use or non-use of pot; I'm just triggered by it.

But, some of the arguments you guys present here are interesting.

Maybe there needs to be more research on this.
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For me, the drug pot (and any illegal and/or mind-altering drug causing maladaptive behavioral changes), triggers me because I
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. I'm not speaking out against the use of pot. I'm just triggered by it. I'm not making an argument against the use or non-use of pot; I'm just triggered by it.
I am sorry that happened.

We did get off topic but maybe a good distraction?

It's a mind altering substance for sure and when I was in school decades ago--they said it was not addictive. Studies now show that is not necessary true. Yes, your withdrawal will not kill you but I have seen people become irritated, unable to sleep and left without as many distractions from their physical and mental pain. It is a serious substance. It is as mentally addictive as alcohol.
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I am sorry that happened.

We did get off topic but maybe a good distraction?

It's a mind altering substance for sure and when I was in school decades ago--they said it is not addictive. Studies now show that is not necessary true. Yes, your withdrawal will not kill you but I have seen people become irritated, unable to sleep and without a distraction from their mental pain. It is a serious substance.
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Thank you.

And yes, the discussions about research was distracting, maybe even desensitizing.

And you're right, pot can be addictive.

What irks me is when people need pot to speak to someone else, and then they just laugh, not taking anything seriously. It's like speaking to a wall when someone is under the influence, or trying to rationalize with a person who is drunk.

For me, the triggers are all of the above. I cannot stop intrusive thoughts or flashbacks when that substance is being used, or when I see that substance, or when I smell it. I don't want to desensitize to use it for PTSD either. I'd rather assert my boundaries and stay away from it, which is my right to do.

But, I can appreciate others who need to use it or who use it recreationally as a form of self-medication, not that it is the healthiest choice.

Thank you for your feedback. It helps.
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Take it from someone whose spouse has used it for over twenty five years ... it can ruins live ... it's ruined mine. I would get thrown under the bus for a joint or brownie in the blink of an eye. I suppose the addictive personality is the problem, but daily pot use fries your damn brain! I don't care what the experts say ... anyone who uses a mind altering substance every day, for decades, gets brain damage.

Pot is a trigger for me too. lol Can you tell?

Drug use in general triggers me. My neighborhood is full of zombies roaming around high on meth, crack, pot, or some drug or another ... it makes life difficult ... having to always be on guard for some crazy person that's high and has nothing to lose.

Why on earth the government would want to legalize a substance that makes people act like total idiots is beyond me. The people that legalized it should have to actually deal with it. They should be required to live with a house full of potheads for a few months ... or years.

The legalization of weed is going to be bad for our country. Hell nobody wants to work now ... what's going to happen when they're all walking around going "dude where's my car?" Try running a household with someone who's high all the time. They don't give a crap if there's food ... unless it's chips and salsa ... if the house is clean ... if the laundry is done ... if the dog's dying ... the car's out of gas ... and on and on and on.

I have MS and have tried CBD oil and it doesn't really help with my neuralgia, but does sometimes help with anxiety so I occasionally take it. Medicinal pot seems like a great idea and if it helps ease suffering great, but damn having it available every where is the dumbest thing i've ever heard of in my 56 years.

When I was in eighth grade my dad died and I started smoking pot with the potheads at school. It lasted a few months and I got tired of being in an altered state of mind. The few times I've tried it since have gotten me paranoid and anxious so it's not for me anyway.

My friend's thirty six year old son does nothing but smoke pot ... think about pot ... talk about pot ... hang on his pot app ... doesn't work and is now getting government assistance because he's too lazy to work. Apparently he has attention deficit disorder and can't work. GEE I wonder why ... maybe smoking too much weed! Sorry to be judgemental. So the government is saying ... sure ... stay stoned ... don't work ... get paid to be a loser and a drain on society.

OMG sorry for the rant, but damn that felt good to get it off my chest!

My apologies to those who use it responsibly.

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Pot does kill motivation and dumbs down your thinking. Yes, I agree that having it available so widely is not a great idea but It also is a useful drug in certain situations.

I know we aren't supposed to talk about members who have left but I hope the author of this thread is doing OK. I will miss her.
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Try running a household with someone who's high all the time. They don't give a crap if there's food ... unless it's chips and salsa ... if the house is clean ... if the laundry is done ... if the dog's dying ... the car's out of gas ... and on and on and on. .
Ugh I think you're right. My sister never tried it until it got legalized and she now no longer works and is utterly useless. I am pretty sure that her husband is eventually going to divorce her and she will end up smoking dope on my couch. To be fair she has always been on the lazy side and at 55 years old there just aren't the opportunities that there once were out there but, I feel like she doesn't try at all.

I tried pot and one of the things that really stopped me from continuing was that I didn't have the time for it. My weekend are taken up with errands and I can take a good 6 hours out to get high? It just didn't work with my lifestyle. Maybe when I retire.
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Oh Emily don't let your sister do that to you. I know it hurts, but letting her find her own way is better for both of you in the long run. That situation will just suck you dry. Addicts end up being parasites and no matter how much you give they will take it and then some ... until you have nothing left. Stay strong.

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Oh Emily don't let your sister do that to you. I know it hurts, but letting her find her own way is better for both of you in the long run. That situation will just suck you dry. Addicts end up being parasites and no matter how much you give they will take it and then some ... until you have nothing left. Stay strong.
She suggested that if they got divorced she would come use my extra room, I said, no, firmly and she hasn't brought it up again. But don't think I won't find her on my step one day trying it.
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Oh geez louise! lol sorry to laugh, but my sister is an alcoholic and she says things like that occasionally ... OVER MY DEAD BODY. WHY can't these people just be normal!? All I ever wanted was to live a normal life with normal family, husband and friends. It seems to be impossible. I'm not asking for the moon ... just normal ... even keeled ... sensible people around me. I haven't had normal in so long I feel crazy. But addicts don't do anything that makes sense. I get so frazzled trying to make sense of it most days. I have gone no contact with my sister, but can't do that with my husband.

Nice guys finish last ... maybe that's why they dump on us ... because we're the nice ones? They've burned all their other bridges and we're all they have left. Dammit we deserve better!

I just read a book called Don't Let Your Kids Kill You: A Guide for Parents of Drug and Alcohol Addicted Children and it applies to pretty much any situation with an addict. It's heartbreaking what they do. Learning about it doesn't make it hurt less though. I keep trying to find solace in someone's writing. I guess it's a long journey. Boundaries for sure though! Even that's hard when you're just learning like me.

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Pot does kill motivation and dumbs down your thinking. Yes, I agree that having it available so widely is not a great idea but It also is a useful drug in certain situations.

I know we aren't supposed to talk about members who have left but I hope the author of this thread is doing OK. I will miss her.
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Oh geez louise! lol sorry to laugh, but my sister is an alcoholic and she says things like that occasionally ... OVER MY DEAD BODY. WHY can't these people just be normal!? All I ever wanted was to live a normal life with normal family, husband and friends. It seems to be impossible. I'm not asking for the moon ... just normal ... even keeled ... sensible people around me. I haven't had normal in so long I feel crazy. But addicts don't do anything that makes sense. I get so frazzled trying to make sense of it most days. I have gone no contact with my sister, but can't do that with my husband.

Nice guys finish last ... maybe that's why they dump on us ... because we're the nice ones? They've burned all their other bridges and we're all they have left. Dammit we deserve better!

I just read a book called Don't Let Your Kids Kill You: A Guide for Parents of Drug and Alcohol Addicted Children and it applies to pretty much any situation with an addict. It's heartbreaking what they do. Learning about it doesn't make it hurt less though. I keep trying to find solace in someone's writing. I guess it's a long journey. Boundaries for sure though! Even that's hard when you're just learning like me.
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I'm so sorry you struggle with that. Boundaries are definitely necessary in such cases. (((safe hugs)))

My father was an alcoholic, and it was really hard for us growing up. I cannot imagine what it must feel like to have children with addiction problems.
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Take it from someone whose spouse has used it for over twenty five years ... it can ruins live ... it's ruined mine. I would get thrown under the bus for a joint or brownie in the blink of an eye. I suppose the addictive personality is the problem, but daily pot use fries your damn brain! I don't care what the experts say ... anyone who uses a mind altering substance every day, for decades, gets brain damage.

Pot is a trigger for me too. lol Can you tell?

Drug use in general triggers me. My neighborhood is full of zombies roaming around high on meth, crack, pot, or some drug or another ... it makes life difficult ... having to always be on guard for some crazy person that's high and has nothing to lose.

Why on earth the government would want to legalize a substance that makes people act like total idiots is beyond me. The people that legalized it should have to actually deal with it. They should be required to live with a house full of potheads for a few months ... or years.

The legalization of weed is going to be bad for our country. Hell nobody wants to work now ... what's going to happen when they're all walking around going "dude where's my car?" Try running a household with someone who's high all the time. They don't give a crap if there's food ... unless it's chips and salsa ... if the house is clean ... if the laundry is done ... if the dog's dying ... the car's out of gas ... and on and on and on.

I have MS and have tried CBD oil and it doesn't really help with my neuralgia, but does sometimes help with anxiety so I occasionally take it. Medicinal pot seems like a great idea and if it helps ease suffering great, but damn having it available every where is the dumbest thing i've ever heard of in my 56 years.

When I was in eighth grade my dad died and I started smoking pot with the potheads at school. It lasted a few months and I got tired of being in an altered state of mind. The few times I've tried it since have gotten me paranoid and anxious so it's not for me anyway.

My friend's thirty six year old son does nothing but smoke pot ... think about pot ... talk about pot ... hang on his pot app ... doesn't work and is now getting government assistance because he's too lazy to work. Apparently he has attention deficit disorder and can't work. GEE I wonder why ... maybe smoking too much weed! Sorry to be judgemental. So the government is saying ... sure ... stay stoned ... don't work ... get paid to be a loser and a drain on society.

OMG sorry for the rant, but damn that felt good to get it off my chest!

My apologies to those who use it responsibly.
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I hear ya, and thanks for sharing your rant. I'm so sorry you are dealing with so much!

I had a veteran friend (female) with MS who seeks care at a non-VA facility. Part of her care includes medical cannabis. She used to vape it, but now she takes it in her water. She said it worked well for a few months, but then she started getting sick later. I think she stopped.

I'm sorry you struggle with MS (((safe hugs)))
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I agree with most people here who said that they need to do more research on the harms that pot can do.

I'm thinking DUIs and car accidents. I'm also thinking memory problems, psychosocial problems with non-pot-smoking persons, work-related problems, marital problems, parental neglect, pet neglect, and many accidents within and outside of the home.

And what about lung problems? Or second-hand pot smoke problems?
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