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Default Apr 03, 2014 at 09:05 PM
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The aromatherapy is also mentally soothing. I recommended it because tmj is caused by tension and only indirectly due to the med. if you like lavender the smell alone will calm you down which is what you want. It does more than that but that is a start. Chamomile tea will do the same thing but it is also a mild relaxant. The important thing is sip, sit or soak and appreciate the experience. Sounds corny but it will take your mind off of the pain.

Those things you listed don't smell or taste as nice

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Saw pdoc today and I am going to switch to Wellbutrin as of tomorrow. Starting on generic Bupropion HCL SR 100mg as of tomorrow. Hopefully this will be the one for me. It is used for all the side effects I typically have with an AD... fatigue and weight issues and it doesn't list clenching or grinding as a side effect. I am optimistic. As of now I do still think the genetic testing is helpful but I also know that in general I am sensitive to medicines and typically have side effects.

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Default Apr 06, 2014 at 11:35 PM
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most of the meds that work on seratonin in a certain way, I don't know how, cause bruxism, which is teeth clenching/ grinding which leads to tmj. I have never had tmj before until I tried lexapro, Zoloft did it to me as well. I'm on Wellbutrin though with no problems and Haldol. I have schizoaffective and the haldol about kills me, though its my miracle drug, so we were looking for a seratonin based antidepressant to help raise those levels and get my life back without spinning me into a bipolar cycling like so many of the antidepressants do. It is a balancing act. I know I did some sort of cheek swab that my pdoc took and it says i'm a rapid metabolizer of almost all the antipsychotics. Thus, I've tried them, they failed and I ended up on haldol. Best of luck to you. Watch out for bruxism with the antidepressants because that is what is flaring up your tmj. Horrible!

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most of the meds that work on seratonin in a certain way, I don't know how, cause bruxism, which is teeth clenching/ grinding which leads to tmj. I have never had tmj before until I tried lexapro, Zoloft did it to me as well. I'm on Wellbutrin though with no problems and Haldol. I have schizoaffective and the haldol about kills me, though its my miracle drug, so we were looking for a seratonin based antidepressant to help raise those levels and get my life back without spinning me into a bipolar cycling like so many of the antidepressants do. It is a balancing act. I know I did some sort of cheek swab that my pdoc took and it says i'm a rapid metabolizer of almost all the antipsychotics. Thus, I've tried them, they failed and I ended up on haldol. Best of luck to you. Watch out for bruxism with the antidepressants because that is what is flaring up your tmj. Horrible!
Yeah, the bruxism is extremely bad with Pristiq unfortunately. It might be that after 6 weeks or so it may have cleared up but it was a bit too much to bare. I am trying Wellbutrin name brand now to see if my genetic test is of any use. We'll see how it goes.

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Yeah, the bruxism is extremely bad with Pristiq unfortunately. It might be that after 6 weeks or so it may have cleared up but it was a bit too much to bare. I am trying Wellbutrin name brand now to see if my genetic test is of any use. We'll see how it goes.
Thought you ditched the Wellbutrin and went with 5 HTP? Is there any difference between the name brand and generic? There is not supposed to be but who knows with the generic labs and where your pharmacy might be getting them.

The Fetzima is getting me a little worried. Very wired and kind of manic. Can't relax or shut my mind off. That is why I am posting so much on here. Sitting here typing calms me for some reason. I guess I should do it in a private journal.

I don't know if there is a lower dose of Fetzima or not. Maybe I should lower my Fetzima and raise Lamictal. I never look up the meds once I decide to go on them. It is just wait and see but maybe I should look up Fetzima. It is pretty new though. So crap I don't know what to do at the moment. Ain't meds a *****.

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Yeah I tried the 5-HTP and it was horrible! It made me sweat, was hot all the time, had very weird and odd dreams, couldn't sleep well, and my heart was racing a bit... That was worse than any of the ADs I've ever taken.

I figured id give the name brand a shot to see if it was a filler component of the generic but after trying it today I can see it's the same at least for me, got the same rash/itching... So Wellbutrin is out for sure. Not sure what we will try next... I'll be seeing the pdoc tomorrow.

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So maybe there is something here after all. I am on Viibryd 5mg, which was yellow on my genetic test and it seems to work well so far. I've been informed by my doc that these test are helpful in that they tell you which meds you metabolize best but they do not tell you exactly how the med will work. Well I knew that, but I was about to give up on it but figured it's a good baseline to follow so we went with the Viibryd.

Pdoc also mentioned brain scans that can be done to determine if you're likely to do well on a particular AD I guess they take scans of your brain then compare them to other depressives who have had success with particular medicine. Then they prescribe the medicine based on the person who has similar brain activity as you. Even in this case it's a toss up as to whether or not the med will work for you. But at least you can have some sort of science behind your choice.

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So maybe there is something here after all. I am on Viibryd 5mg, which was yellow on my genetic test and it seems to work well so far. I've been informed by my doc that these test are helpful in that they tell you which meds you metabolize best but they do not tell you exactly how the med will work. Well I knew that, but I was about to give up on it but figured it's a good baseline to follow so we went with the Viibryd.

Pdoc also mentioned brain scans that can be done to determine if you're likely to do well on a particular AD I guess they take scans of your brain then compare them to other depressives who have had success with particular medicine. Then they prescribe the medicine based on the person who has similar brain activity as you. Even in this case it's a toss up as to whether or not the med will work for you. But at least you can have some sort of science behind your choice.

Before you shell out money for the brain scan do yourself a favor and do some research. Your doc was right on with the test but there isn't a lot of good evidence for the scans. They have acknowledged that the people they used for research were on meds. We do know meds modify your brain. So they do the scan and that's often what they are seeing. Then assuming they are comparing a non medicated person it is a guess at best. Not really ready for prime time. The saliva test seems to have more validity IMO. I actually read an interview with a doc who admitted he uses the scans to make patients feel better and are therefore more compliant about taking the meds. Don't believe me though. I'd encourage you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions.

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Before you shell out money for the brain scan do yourself a favor and do some research. Your doc was right on with the test but there isn't a lot of good evidence for the scans. They have acknowledged that the people they used for research were on meds. We do know meds modify your brain. So they do the scan and that's often what they are seeing. Then assuming they are comparing a non medicated person it is a guess at best. Not really ready for prime time. The saliva test seems to have more validity IMO. I actually read an interview with a doc who admitted he uses the scans to make patients feel better and are therefore more compliant about taking the meds. Don't believe me though. I'd encourage you to do your own research and come to your own conclusions.

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Thanks for the caution but I'm not getting a brain scan. I was just mentioning something my pdoc said. I'm done getting tested, the genetic test was enough for me. I am glad I did it since it gave me a place to start. The Viibryd is actually working well so far. I hope it will continue to work well and I'll be done with worrying about it for awhile, hopefully a long while!

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Thanks for the caution but I'm not getting a brain scan. I was just mentioning something my pdoc said. I'm done getting tested, the genetic test was enough for me. I am glad I did it since it gave me a place to start. The Viibryd is actually working well so far. I hope it will continue to work well and I'll be done with worrying about it for awhile, hopefully a long while!

Cool. That let's tell em it works so they will comply flipped me out when I read it. Could you imagine treating somebody with cancer that way?

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Cool. That let's tell em it works so they will comply flipped me out when I read it. Could you imagine treating somebody with cancer that way?

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It is a bit scary to think about it, especially if it costs a lot. I can only imagine! Sometimes the piece of mind is worth the cost IMO, at least in the mental health field but you should know what you're shoveling out so much money for.

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So maybe there is something here after all. I am on Viibryd 5mg, which was yellow on my genetic test and it seems to work well so far. I've been informed by my doc that these test are helpful in that they tell you which meds you metabolize best but they do not tell you exactly how the med will work. Well I knew that, but I was about to give up on it but figured it's a good baseline to follow so we went with the Viibryd.

Pdoc also mentioned brain scans that can be done to determine if you're likely to do well on a particular AD I guess they take scans of your brain then compare them to other depressives who have had success with particular medicine. Then they prescribe the medicine based on the person who has similar brain activity as you. Even in this case it's a toss up as to whether or not the med will work for you. But at least you can have some sort of science behind your choice.
I really hope Viibryd works for you. Sounds good so far. I think it will. (my two cents for the placebo effect )

I for one am glad they are applying some science no matter how crude in an actual clinical setting that we deal with. The tests may be very crude at this point and not tell them much but they will learn from it and refine it and learn a little more and change the theory once again. The theories change all the time based on new evidence and we are in the primitive stages in mental health compared to other medicine and other sciences.

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Did the genomind report and my report seems eerily similar to the sample report on their website.

I under stand that these reports are personal but I would like to see if someone could share a sample genomind repoirt.. just to make sure we are not all getting the same results..
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I took that test. I had been on Zoloft but it pooped out. My doctor out me on Vybrid which works better even if it makes me have insomnia. We also found out why I don't tolerate Valium so well either. I am one of those folks who has severe side effects (like falling face down on the carpet taking a nap....it knocks me out). Still it fixed my depression by taking that test.
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