Brain zaps not from withdrawal?

nikon · Nov 13, 2020 at 07:07 AM

I'm on 4 medications - effexor, imipramine, lamotragine and seroquel. For ages (probably a couple of years) I've been having those "brain zaps" that are common when you stop effexor and some other meds. I hardly ever forget to take my meds, but still I have some days when loud noises or some movements give me brain zaps so intense it feels like my face is tingling and I can't hear properly. It's not painful and I'm not dramatic about it, but it does bother me.

Has anyone experienced this not in the context of withdrawal from meds? I have asked my dr but they were kind of vague and didn't give me an answer. It also seems to get worse after I work out, like when my heart beats fast.

WastingAsparagus · Nov 13, 2020 at 10:45 AM

This is a total guess, so run it by your doctor, but could it be because you metabolize Effexor rapidly? Effexor has a very short half-life, making it necessary to take it multiple times a day for some people. In my own case, I have to take the Effexor XR (extended-release) capsules twice a day for them to be effective for my depression. Maybe it's because of that? I feel like this could be a potential explanation for what you're experiencing. So, I will ask, do you take Effexor only once a day? Are you on the extended-release or the regular Effexor?

ArtleyWilkins · Nov 13, 2020 at 12:35 PM

Effexor is unforgiving. If you don't take it at exactly the same time each day, it's possible you are going beyond the half-life and it is triggering the brain zaps. Or, it may be a dosage issue. I loved effexor for my depression. It really worked quite well, but getting off of it was a bit of a hassle. It took a few weeks but I was able to get off of it without any lasting problems.

nikon · Nov 13, 2020 at 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WastingAsparagus

This is a total guess, so run it by your doctor, but could it be because you metabolize Effexor rapidly? Effexor has a very short half-life, making it necessary to take it multiple times a day for some people. In my own case, I have to take the Effexor XR (extended-release) capsules twice a day for them to be effective for my depression. Maybe it's because of that? I feel like this could be a potential explanation for what you're experiencing. So, I will ask, do you take Effexor only once a day? Are you on the extended-release or the regular Effexor?

Yeah, maybe, although I can remember having this before I started effexor in March this year. I take it once a day in the morning and it's the XR one. I'm also very happy with it so far in terms of mood - this issue wouldn't make me stop it, but it's been puzzling me for ages.

nikon · Nov 13, 2020 at 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ArtleyWilkins

Effexor is unforgiving. If you don't take it at exactly the same time each day, it's possible you are going beyond the half-life and it is triggering the brain zaps. Or, it may be a dosage issue. I loved effexor for my depression. It really worked quite well, but getting off of it was a bit of a hassle. It took a few weeks but I was able to get off of it without any lasting problems.

Yeah, I do know that on the few occasions I've forgotten to take it, the brain zaps are also very intense. I pretty much always take it within the same rough time frame of 7:30-8:30.

Yeah, I have come off it before, cold turkey (my irresponsible decision), and remember the brain zaps and nightmares....

If this does continue I'll probably follow up more with my dr. I just find it awkward pushing for answers, because I always think they'll see me as a hypochondriac.

ShaneG · Nov 13, 2020 at 02:06 PM

Would your experience accompany bright flashing blue/orangey lights like a momentary floodlight flash which affects your head, you feel sort of dizzy or inner pressure.

Would this be like your experiences at all.

ShaneG · Nov 13, 2020 at 02:10 PM

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ShaneG · Nov 13, 2020 at 02:16 PM

Press accounts have documented individuals who apparently believed they were victims of electronic harassment, and in some cases persuaded courts to agree. In 2008, James Walbert went to court claiming that his former business associate had threatened him with "jolts of radiation" after a disagreement, and later claimed feeling symptoms such as electric shock sensations and hearing strange sounds in his ears. The court decided to issue an order banning "electronic means" to further harass Walbert.[11]

Paracelsus · Nov 14, 2020 at 06:24 AM

What other context is their other than describing it as withdrawal? Basically the drug keeps you from zapping from the drug. (part of the process of going back to normal i guess). I mean your putting a chemical pellet into your stomach and it alters structural messaging components of your brain. Some adaptations can be made once you stop self administering the drug. Usually zapping goes away with SSRIs after a week.

nikon · Nov 14, 2020 at 10:24 AM

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What other context is their other than describing it as withdrawal? Basically the drug keeps you from zapping from the drug. (part of the process of going back to normal i guess). I mean your putting a chemical pellet into your stomach and it alters structural messaging components of your brain. Some adaptations can be made once you stop self administering the drug. Usually zapping goes away with SSRIs after a week.

I don't really understand what you're saying.... It's not withdrawal, as far as I can tell, because I consistently take my meds, haven't reduced or stopped any of them and seldom miss a dose. It wouldn't be from withdrawal from effexor because I'm not going off it.... unless as other posters have said it is somehow going through my system too fast.

ShaneG · Nov 14, 2020 at 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Paracelsus

What other context is their other than describing it as withdrawal? Basically the drug keeps you from zapping from the drug. (part of the process of going back to normal i guess). I mean your putting a chemical pellet into your stomach and it alters structural messaging components of your brain. Some adaptations can be made once you stop self administering the drug. Usually zapping goes away with SSRIs after a week.

Not always I don't know of any other drug that has a noticeable effect of brain zapping ( only too much coke)
It's not always the medication, it's because you have decided not to take the stuff, within the field this is like committing a crime, the position of noncompliance, so in order to keep the ruse going as they would be liable for a lot of embarrassing and detrimental things over the course of decades.

So, think child abuse and care homes. get it!

nikon · Nov 14, 2020 at 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaneG

Press accounts have documented individuals who apparently believed they were victims of electronic harassment, and in some cases persuaded courts to agree. In 2008, James Walbert went to court claiming that his former business associate had threatened him with "jolts of radiation" after a disagreement, and later claimed feeling symptoms such as electric shock sensations and hearing strange sounds in his ears. The court decided to issue an order banning "electronic means" to further harass Walbert.[11]

That is what they feel like, but I don't really think someone is targeting me with radiation or other energy.

WastingAsparagus · Nov 14, 2020 at 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nikon

Yeah, maybe, although I can remember having this before I started effexor in March this year. I take it once a day in the morning and it's the XR one. I'm also very happy with it so far in terms of mood - this issue wouldn't make me stop it, but it's been puzzling me for ages.

It could be caused by one of your other meds either in interaction with Effexor or on its own perhaps?

ShaneG · Nov 14, 2020 at 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by nikon

That is what they feel like, but I don't really think someone is targeting me with radiation or other energy.

It's EMF or WBAN , to my understanding at this present moment in time.

*Beth* · Nov 15, 2020 at 02:42 PM

Some years ago I was taking Zoloft and had brain zaps fairly often. I always took it exactly on time, never missed a dose. Also, if I turned my head too quickly there was a disturbing kind of motion lag.

ShaneG · Nov 15, 2020 at 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BethRags

Some years ago I was taking Zoloft and had brain zaps fairly often. I always took it exactly on time, never missed a dose. Also, if I turned my head too quickly there was a disturbing kind of motion lag.

Was it brain zapped and followed by a bright flash through the window.

nikon · Nov 16, 2020 at 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BethRags

Some years ago I was taking Zoloft and had brain zaps fairly often. I always took it exactly on time, never missed a dose. Also, if I turned my head too quickly there was a disturbing kind of motion lag.

Thanks for your reply

Maybe it is just an effect I get.... I just get frustrated because I have all these little "symptoms" and have no idea what causes them.

ShaneG · Nov 16, 2020 at 08:20 AM

Same here, though judging by the cold and aggressive response from my immediate environment I think I am getting closer, I think are victims of covert harassment, mocking, slander, and cyber torture.

this seems to be a more in-depth explanation as to what we are collectively co-existing with.

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ShaneG Account Suspended Member Since Jul 2020 Location: Unknown Posts: 707 3 371 hugs given	Nov 16, 2020 at 08:20 AM #18 Same here, though judging by the cold and aggressive response from my immediate environment I think I am getting closer, I think are victims of covert harassment, mocking, slander, and cyber torture. this seems to be a more in-depth explanation as to what we are collectively co-existing with.
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