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Hi all,

So I have an issue I am debating. My new therapist asked if I would be open to meds. I said yeah I would be open to the idea again.

I have an appointment next week with a nurse practitioner.
The issue is that I am not sure if I want to go back on meds. Like I do almost but then I also don’t want to go on them. I have trouble with decisions. I have trouble with being consistent with them when I am on them. Last time I was on meds, I was on them for about, two maybe three months, and then stopped them.
I was thinking of just going to the nurse practitioner for a consult and not get on meds right away.
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Dear RavenGirl1990,

I wish I had some advice to offer, but sadly I am not a physician or medical professional. I have been on meds on and off for most of my life. Every time I go off meds, I suffer terribly. I am sure that meds are one of the reasons I am still alive. But I cannot offer advice that you or anyone could or should reply upon and can only share what has helped me personally. I do hope that you are your nurse practitioner will find what works absolutely best for you, whatever that may be.

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What did you take meds for?

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What did you take meds for?
Well anxiety and depression but I am never consistent with them.
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Inconsistency with meds can worsen your depression and anxiety.

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Don’t take the same class of medication expecting different results. The counselor recommends medication because that is what they are taught in school and at work. They never studied medicine and neither did nurse practitioners. They don’t know how the drugs actually work. Your smart, i can tell. Good luck. Maybe it’s your genes and your diet. Mainly your diet is off. Find what foods you need to eat more of.
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Don’t take the same class of medication expecting different results. The counselor recommends medication because that is what they are taught in school and at work. They never studied medicine and neither did nurse practitioners. They don’t know how the drugs actually work. Your smart, i can tell. Good luck. Maybe it’s your genes and your diet. Mainly your diet is off. Find what foods you need to eat more of.
Hey @Paracelsus I disagree about NP's:
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Psychiatric mental health nurse practitioners (PMHNP) are responsible for assessing the mental health status of patients by studying their relevant medical history, performing comprehensive psychiatric evaluations, and identifying risk factors that might affect a patient’s mental health. They make diagnoses of their patients’ mental illness based on their assessment, and then determine what will be the most effective plan of care. By utilizing their knowledge of psychotherapy modalities and psychopharmacology, and in collaboration with doctors and other professionals, these advanced-practice nurses put their patients on a regimen of therapy and prescription medication to improve their mental health.

A psychiatric nurse practitioner is an advanced medical specialist requiring an extensive knowledge of nursing, mental health assessment and diagnosis, psychotherapy, and psychopharmacology. A background as a registered nurse (RN) is required, along with a two-year associate degree in nursing, a three-year hospital-based nursing diploma, or a four-year bachelor’s degree at a college or university. Graduates may then establish a specialization in mental health by pursuing a focused master’s or post-master’s certificate program. In this course of study, they will delve deeper into the skills needed for a career in this specialization. Accredited certifications, such as the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC) Psychiatric–Mental Health Nurse Practitioner Board Certification (PMHNP-BC), are required for many professional positions. This credential is awarded to those who meet education and experience requirements and pass a certification examination.
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During graduate programs in nursing, NP students undergo extensive education in assessment, diagnosis, and treatment. They take advanced courses in pharmacotherapeutics and complete rigorous patient simulations, as well as supervised clinical hours. They study pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics while learning how to safely and effectively prescribe and monitor medication in different patient populations. In sum, NP education and subsequent credentialing prepares them for full prescriptive authority, but there are still differing regional laws regarding NP autonomy.
I think it is a disservice to say that NP's are less knowledgeble or trained when it comes to diagnosing and medication. And i think all the science by now has shown that rarely does food have anything to do with a psychiatric condition or brain imbalance.

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Hey @Paracelsus I disagree about NP's:
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I think it is a disservice to say that NP's are less knowledgeble or trained when it comes to diagnosing and medication. And i think all the science by now has shown that rarely does food have anything to do with a psychiatric condition or brain imbalance.
Psychiatrists don’t even know beyond a C- in one semester of biochem. Watched a person every night politely decline the antipsychotic, but a currupt judge with close ties with hospital money made it so this person must bend over and take the shot every night. If she didn’t bend over they would hold her down. In early 2020 due to low occupancy they had said judge put administrative holds on every single person. These people told me they were only taking the medication so they could get out. They made these people wear awful clothing and wouldn’t let them use a normal pen or pencil. One patient was coughing up blood calling a local crisis center for help, the hospital was preventing family from even knowing this person was inpatient. They were ordered to treat the situation as a self harm incident, the patient was reported gagging themselves. We live in a sick currupt twisted society. CDC only provides suicide statistics for 2018. Nothing on 2020. You know it’s wrong to give these drugs to people who are already suffering. Mental illness is an archaic term. The DSM is an infamous historical text used to market certain drugs at a certain time in history to treat conditions that didn’t even exist/and or severely misunderstood

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You obviously have your own issues with meds but its wrong to discount PNP's, NP's and Psyches because of your own bias. Your issues seem to lie with the system itself and not the education levels of the professionals.

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Psychiatrists don’t even know beyond a C- in one semester of biochem. Watched a person every night politely decline the antipsychotic, but a currupt judge with close ties with hospital money made it so this person must bend over and take the shot every night. If she didn’t bend over they would hold her down. In early 2020 due to low occupancy they had said judge put administrative holds on every single person. These people told me they were only taking the medication so they could get out. They made these people wear awful clothing and wouldn’t let them use a normal pen or pencil. One patient was coughing up blood calling a local crisis center for help, the hospital was preventing family from even knowing this person was inpatient. They were ordered to treat the situation as a self harm incident, the patient was reported gagging themselves. We live in a sick currupt twisted society. CDC only provides suicide statistics for 2018. Nothing on 2020. You know it’s wrong to give these drugs to people who are already suffering. Mental illness is an archaic term. The DSM is an infamous historical text used to market certain drugs at a certain time in history to treat conditions that didn’t even exist/and or severely misunderstood

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