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User Precaryous found an amazing article about the 9 - 12% of therapists that ADMIT to having sexual relations with clients. Here is a link to the thread:
This is always framed as an issue with unethical or out of control therapists.

Surely much of this has to do with therapy itself... two people locked in a room, discussing various intimacies, one person in a vulnerable position the other in a powerful position, whole thing shrouded in secrecy.
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Everything came tumbling down after I read this:
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This is always framed as an issue with unethical or out of control therapists.

Surely much of this has to do with therapy itself... two people locked in a room, discussing various intimacies, one person in a vulnerable position the other in a powerful position, whole thing shrouded in secrecy.
I agree 110% with you about this!

It is the inherent power imbalance found in therapy
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I agree 110% with you about this!

It is the inherent power imbalance found in therapy
The inherent (potential for ) power imbalance may not affect every client, but I was a "mark" for it, it seems. It's there, for those who are susceptible. Some therapists may not, but there are many therapists who use the therapist-client situation for their own narcissistic and dominance gratification. It may not be as overt as sexual exploitation, but it's there.
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Absolutely. That is what I meant.
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This is always framed as an issue with unethical or out of control therapists.

Surely much of this has to do with therapy itself... two people locked in a room, discussing various intimacies, one person in a vulnerable position the other in a powerful position, whole thing shrouded in secrecy.
There's a journal article I found interesting that's kind of about this, but in the context of the relationship between supervisor and the therapist in supervision. It talks a bit about how the nature of therapy can lead to confusing feelings about sex/romantic attraction. It's written in accessible everyday language, not niche subfield academic jargon.

Sex, Supervision, and Boundary Violations:
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I think it's behind a paywall but I shared it to google drive if anyone wants the pdf link
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I've just read another " call out " review for the place I had such a bad experience. The lack of integrity is sickening , people will just not trust if this sort of thing is allowed to continue.
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I've just read another " call out " review for the place I had such a bad experience. The lack of integrity is sickening , people will just not trust if this sort of thing is allowed to continue.
Thanks for sharing this... My heart goes out to you.

Was it in the news? What is a call out review?

I imagine this is causing mixed emotions, on one hand it is triggering and on the other hand it is validating in that its proof you are not alone. I am angry hearing about this.

How have you been coping?

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Thanks HD , exactly , very mixed emotions I'm trying to deal with. A " call out " is saying something bluntly , telling it exactly like it is , so leaving a review to that effect. It's brought a lot of feelings up again. I'm coping by more processing I guess , like you do from a trigger , but it's no fun while it's ongoing. And it all should be reported.
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I've just read another " call out " review for the place I had such a bad experience. The lack of integrity is sickening , people will just not trust if this sort of thing is allowed to continue.
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. . . And it all should be reported.
But will they ever care? From this recent article;

A Deeper Dive into System Change in the Mental Health Paradigm - Mad In America

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. . .be prepared for subtle and not-so-subtle discrimination—unspoken is sometimes most powerful—”once a mental patient, always a mental patient.” I heard just this week a mid-level manager state that many people believe “most advocate leaders are really personality disordered, not mentally ill.” We have to find ways to manage the totally justified anger you already have or will feel. In dealing directly with those in power, be aware that they will overinflate any anger they sense from you and become more defensive than ever. Not that anger should never be shown, but it’s probably best tied to stories of actual abuse, physical and emotional.
So very, very sucks. We get "well" enough to experience the justifiable anger, and then are dismissed because of that very thing! We just have to get "weller" than them. . . somehow. . .But as difficult as it seems, accepting that reality kind of helps, in a way.
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