Survivors of Unethical Therapy

Bud, I hate to say it, but I believe you are telling it like it is. Depressing, isn’t it?

At the same time, I think there are some reputable therapists out there who are able to do the job of listening, helping, and healing. I say that only because I finally found one.

How long did it take you to find a good therapist?

I was lucky to fine a great subsequent therapist but after I moved it took me fifteen years to try to find a good therapist again.

My second search took about a year to find Current T. I went through two other therapists before I found Current T.

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Originally Posted by HD7970GHZ How long did it take you to find a good therapist?

Let's see, H - let me do some number-crunching.

I'd say in the 50 years I've been in therapy, on and off, I've encountered (among others) two REALLY AWFUL ones, a couple of not-too-bad ones, and finally, when I was about 45, met the therapist I would stay with for many years and finally finish up with.

So let's say it took me 20+ years.

My best to you. Be well.

Not depressing for me personally. For me has been somewhat liberating to see things as they are.

I came across therapists who seemed like decent people. But it was still going to be pointless at best. The only sure thing was that the therapist would make money.

Yes, of course that is true Bud. But in the end, I got what I came for and what I paid for..

I just wanted everyone to know that I am advocating and investigating as much as I am able!

I am in the process of building my confidential informants in the healthcare system.

To any survivor of abuse in therapy, know that you are not alone and that your life is worth so much. Don't let the failure of a mental health professional ruin you. Their industry will be getting a kick in the butt soon enough.

Thanks,
HD7970ghz

Good for you HD. I'm still trying to process what happened with me 6 months after the event , and my ethical T is still angry about what happened and wishes he could act.'Hugs to all who've been on the end of this trauma , I often wish there was more that could be done , but I think they just look the other way and cover for each other a lot of the time.

And I was in therapy off and on for 50 years, too, and did not get what I went and paid for.

Yes, seems that way to me, too. The action probably has to come from us but when we've been beat down and gaslighted so badly it is, of course, hard to do anything.

I’m sorry, Here Today. As you see, I spent many many years trying. But for the luck of the draw, i could certainly still be trying.

I wish that healing comes for you, in whatever form. Can be unpredictable.

Thanks, Mopey, but I feel that is condescending. I have been scammed and taken advantage of by an institution of our society. Nobody cares, nobody in the society at large or the authorities in the institutions are addressing or even acknowledging the issues. They continue to make money and enhance their status on the backs of people they are licensed to "help".

"Healing", which to me is a term used by the hucksters to promote their scam, will come for me when the damage and potential for damage to people by psychotherapy is recognized and exposed. I am too old, I don't expect anyone to acknowledge the damage done to me by therapy. But to know that someone has been successful in bringing the situation to light -- yes that would help a lot. My life is almost over -- stymied and stunted and damaged by those folks. If you don't get that, you don't get it.

Love and support to everyone who has been through trauma and abuse in therapy! For the failures of the industry to provide the safety that is promised and for taking advantage of an inherent power imbalance for personal gain. For being victim blamed and shamed, being invalidated by subsequent therapists and for the unending systemic abuses that continue to occur.

I cannot wait until this issue is exposed to the extent that it needs. Hope for justice and accountability and protection for the most vulnerable populations who make themselves vulnerable in pursuit of help - only to be harmed.

Don't give up fellow survivors. We are the achilles heel of healthcare. Our voices are paramount to change. Only a matter of time.

The truth will out.

Thanks,
HD7970ghz

Thank you so much for your energy and efforts!

There was a surge of academic articles and books by MH professionals in the ‘90’s that zeroed in on therapist exploitation/ethics/ the harm/ how to treat and help survivors... Helpful publications.

AND there were articles blaming the patient and advising the MH professional how to beware. There was a book that actually advocated therapist/patient sexual intimacies. Can’t remember the title, maybe ‘the love treatment’.

Here it is, “The Love Treatment: Sexual Intimacy Between Patients and Psychotherapists” by Martin Shepherd
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Treatmen.../dp/0446668265

Why aren’t MH professionals writing about the prevalence, harm and treatment modalities for survivors anymore? Around the same time period I found several MH professionals who specialized treating therapist exploitation survivors in California, Minnesota and Texas (May be others I didn’t run across). Why has this stopped?

Perhaps about a year ago I wrote into Dr. Phil (I know, I know) and I received an email from an interested producer within the week! I wanted to say this is STILL an issue... but family issues arose that needed my attention and my T expressed concern that I might not be ‘protected’ enough...not knowing what direction the topic would go. Plus, I don’t feel stable atm, so I didn’t pursue it. But maybe the issues need a platform that large!

We pay for therapy and not only do not get what we pay for but we are given additional issues to deal with, as well!

‘Do no harm’ would be a laugh if it wasn’t so painful.

I think it's a case of all systems are corrupted and broken and need house cleaning. It's sort of " Uh , yeah , we know there are problems , but what can we do ? " ( spreads hands theatrically )

With all of them , when it gets to the point that nobody trusts them anymore they'll HAVE to do something , but Hey , why let it get that bad ?

exactly! ^^^

how many endless stories have we heard about clients having to seek out another therapist, a better therapist, a 'good one' just to get past the issues that the previous T inflicted?

this was one reason why when i realised the therapy with my ex-T wasn't helping, but was harmful and making my issues worse, that i was going to rely on myself (with my spouses support) to get me out of there. in my mind, seeking further talk therapy from another T wasn't even going to be an option to get past the disappointments and hurts inflicted from the unhealthy dynamics of my relationship with my ex-T.

Yes!
In my previous post I was asking, in part, ...where are the articles..where are the therapists who specialize in ‘therapist exploitation’ these days ? —>

when I realized just now-
We shouldn’t NEED them!

I had thoughts similar to yours that once we have been exploited by a therapist, who can we work THAT out with?? We should trust another T?!

As I’ve mentioned before, I was very careful and nervous when I looked for a subsequent therapist while I was still enmeshed with the abusive Pdoc. It took me fifteen years to consider trying to find a new T in my state after my move from West coast.

koru kiwi, I’m glad to hear you have your spouse’s support ( and PC) and do not have to deal with the hurts and disappointments by yourself.

Sadly we do hear those endless stories , when I look at my own story it's so ridiculous it couldn't be made up. If I didn't laugh I'd cry. I do remember there seemed to be more T's specializing in treating therapy issues going back a few years than there seem to be presently

Rather than trying to reform a hopelessly dysfunctional and unethical profession/practice, better to stop using it and put it out of business.

Same goes for mainstream medicine.

I think one of the pillars of good health is avoidance of conventional healthcare. Each interaction with therapists and doctors carries lot of risk, and potential benefits are scarce and meagre.

Absolutely agree with the conversation(s) here!

It baffles me how biased and unruly healthcare professionals are. The abusers are just as guilty as the professionals who know about these things and choose to do nothing; and professionals who are biased and unwilling to accept the truth are no better. Add to this the Government who knows very well about these abuses and chooses to write relaxed policy and legislation to allow for allow cover-ups to maintain a public facade of do no harm. Add to this all the third party organizations who have conflicts of interest, who continue to save face and protect the perpetrators for fear of repercussions.

CLASSIC, CLASSIC, CLASSIC!

The healthcare system has become a perfect environment for abuse; self-perpetuating cultural and systemic abuse. Their denial, projection and cover-ups have (overtime) normalized abuse on a grand scale and nothing will change until they are exposed and forced to acknowledge the problems that exist; the problems that THEY have created.

This large-scale and cultural change starts with the individual, however, professionals are scared to speak up because they know what happens to fellow colleagues and or clients when they speak up. (There is a culture of fear and intimidation that is SO well documented in large institutions like healthcare). Because clients have little to no credibility on their own (unless they conglomerate and stand together), the only way to make a change is to wait for professionals to speak up (which very few do), or for clients to file class-action lawsuits, spearhead social movements and prove to the Government that full public judicial inquiries are necessary in order to expose mass corruption and abuses in their systems. In order to do this, we would have to prove to the Government that it is in their best interest to do so; otherwise they will continue to protect themselves and their institutions.

CLASSIC, CLASSIC, CLASSIC.

This is a cycle of abuse by those in power who have ZERO accountability and even though it is the SAME - EXACT - STORY - EVERY - TIME, (Catholic Church Scandals, Canadian Residential Schools, etc) nothing ever changes overnight! When will Government take responsibility for their broken systems and protect citizens who depend on them!? It is absolutely mind boggling.

Dear Government, your systemic abuse and culture of fear and intimidation may very well protect and maintain a functioning system free from accountability; but overtime it always ends up far worse than it should ever be and the truth will out! Why not spare a whole lot of embarrassment, not to mention insurmountable levels of abuse and trauma and deaths by taking action now and forcing staff to be held accountable!?

I gotta take a moment to reflect on this BIG PICTURE mentality. The longer I spend thinking and researching this stuff, the more I lose faith in humanity. There are SO many healthcare professionals who want to speak up about this. If we survivors can band up with them - we can combine our voices and together we might just be able to change things.

Thanks,
HD7970ghz