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We did eventually talk about it in detail in terms of what would be my ideal if something did happen to her. I think it was helpful. She reassured me that this was the life she wants to have. I believe that is the most honest way she can reassure me. We both acknowledge that we do not control the world around us and so many things can go differently than planned/hoped for either of us. Would it be helpful to hear your T say something like this is the life she wants to have? I also think it might be useful to know what her contact plan is if something does happen - not just once she takes leave but if something comes up during the pregnancy and she has to leave sooner than expected. BTW - my T never shared the specifics of her plan, she did challenge me with the idea/concept if I thought she'd be the type of person that would not have such a plan in place. This was after the 3-4th time through this cycle for us so she knew fairly well the level of stress this put on me. I agree given everything, some shared visits and starting to see someone else sooner rather than later might help as a hand off type of deal. Feel free to PM me anything you are unsure about sharing in public. |
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#82
I'll go ahead and post my email. I always send it, just most of the time I review it and tweak it. T already responded. I'll post that too. Just know I was really emotional. And be easy on your opinion, please!
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#83
Your email just seemed really honest. And your T seemed really understanding in her reply. I also think you should go Thursday and talk about it.
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#84
It's hard to be a "lawyer" to my thoughts when I'm so emotional. I have plenty of evidence against her. But I do have evidence for her. I just wish she would reassure me. Maybe she will on Thursday? She said she would in the other email. I know she doesn't like responding in emails. And my T does tell me that everything will be okay. She's always been right so far. But she hasn't said that about this situation.
My H actually told me last night that I'm as emotional as a was when ex-T left me. One, I'm grieving. Two, I really do feel like she's going to abandon me. She's going to do it the "ethical" way, but she is still going to leave me. __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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Your therapist has been trying to get you to use the skills she has worked with you on. Go back and look at how many times she has reminded you of those skills in the last few days. This is exactly the kind of situation that those skills are needed for; it's time to put them to use. That is what you therapist is telling you. She isn't abandoning you; she's trying to get you to use what she has walked you through these last several years. This is maternity leave, not abandonment. That is the "lawyering" of your thoughts you need to be working with. Maternity leave is a pretty normal scenario for married females of childbearing age; this isn't something she failed to prepare your for. This is a common adult situation that adults deal with. It isn't fatal. It isn't abandonment. It isn't a ploy to leave you. Your T is simply having a baby. Women return from maternity leave quite regularly. You have choices about how you think about this; that is what you therapist is reminding you of. Choose differently right now because what you are choosing to do isn't working to calm your anxiety down. I know it is all easy to say and much harder to do. I don't say any of the above as criticism; I say it as someone who cares about you and has seen you down this road before. This T has been good for you, but NOW is the time to utilize all that wisdom and strength you had built up in the last few years. Instead, you seem to be throwing all that work out the window. Don't do that, Scarlett. I KNOW you can do this because you are a strong woman and you have been through much worse. This isn't happening immediately. It isn't a "I walked into the ex-T's office and she immediately terminated me" scenario. This isn't that. This is a completely different, completely normal, completely reasonable, completely survivable interruption of services due to a woman's maternity leave. |
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#86
There is no amount of reassurance which will satiate you. There is no magical combination of words which your therapist can say which will soothe you. You will continue to torture yourself if you look for external validation.
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I am also very interested in the fact that you have asked to see a picture of the baby and that your therapist has agreed to this. You don't have a relationship with the baby and the baby will be an independent person, not merely an extension of your therapist. It seems an intrusive and inappropriate request to me. The therapeutic work is surely why you want to see the infant and why you think it is appropriate to ask, not in the actual access to the child's image.
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There always needs to be a discussion! Discussions are where you dig up the dirt. Unless you mean there doesn't need to be a discussion on here with me. I mean, that's true, but then why post? People are strange.
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I'm actually glad you noticed my tone in the letter. I often feel like a child when I'm really emotional. I think it's the BPD. I just haven't matured emotionally. But you're also right, that when I can stay logical, I tend to be in an adult mind. I always wondered if my T notices the change. If I'm being honest with myself, I know I can survive this even if T abandons me. I have survived with nothing and no one when I was homeless. I have survived ex-T abandoning me. It just hurts. __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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#91
I also want to add that I haven't cut through all of this. I haven't had to call T. And I have finally taken a bath, cleaned my sheets, and put on clean clothes.
Also to add: please remember that I'm in a depressive state atm. I'm still upping my meds. And speaking of meds, I haven't drugged myself (i.e. taken a benzo) for a few days now. I am trying my best. I swear. I just have moments of breakdown especially at night. __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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I couldn't give a hooty-rooty-mctooty whether you are trying your best or not. I mean, good for you that you aren't self-harming and are attending to your basic needs, but it makes no difference to me. I think it's fine to fail at being your best self, or to not even have a best self. I am interested in how assertively you can express your wants to your therapist because I fail at it repeatedly. That was it really, teenybash mcbasherville.
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I'm having a hard time deciding whether or not to go on Thursday. My T has a 24hr cancellation policy, so I have to decide by tomorrow.
Pro's: 1. Maybe get some reassurance 2. Get to process some 3. Get some understanding/answers 4. I usually love being with my T Cons: 1. I'm going to probably be a blubbering mess. 2. My worst fears could come true 3. She could be mad at me 4. She might not be empathetic 5. I might hurt more afterwards Eta:I think my answer is to go. However, part of me wants to test her...see how she reacts. If she reacts positive, I'll see her. If she's mean or dismissive, then I don't see her. Again, I think I have my answer. I need to tell her that I want to test her. Sometimes I hate being so honest... __________________ "Odium became your opium..." ~Epica |
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#94
Yes, go. Don’t play games.
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Also, I don't know you or your T, but from the replies that you have posted, she hasn't been "mean" or "dismissive" at all, on the contrary. And I'm happy that you can be this open with her over email. IMO, she already gave you a lot of reassurance so I think that going to your appointment will just build on that and you will leave feeling a lot more positive. I also think that it's important to talk through all of this face to face. Your T deciding to have a baby is in no way an attempt on her part to "get rid of you" or abandon you. And I know that you know this on an intellectual level. I too, struggle to see things for what they are when I'm feeling vulnerable and emotional. But I really think that this appointment will be a chance for you to work through this stuff and start seeing things a little less negatively. I wish you all the best! |
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#96
I sent her an email telling her that I would go and telling her how I felt.
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#97
I think it's great you are going to your session and I suspect it will be a good one.
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#98
I am also glad you are going to your session. It is hard to go and face feelings, but the feeling of not going is way worse.
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Im glad you are going to your session on Thursday hugs
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Here's how T responded:
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