Therapist jailed for sex with client

Maybe just try to be aware that you sound like you are making judgements about people you don’t know. (This may not be your intent )people on the forum may have more education than you are aware of or may have in fact experienced what you have. On a public forum you just don’t know so it might be a best practice to withhold judgements.

* this goes for me too because I know for a fact I’ve had moments of being judge mental towards one or two pc people

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I am not trying to judge people for God's sake! I am done with this crazymaking. I am done beating my head against the wall trying to clarify what other people assume I am saying or doing or thinking or feeling. Getting absolutely nowhere with this and I am getting retraumatized engaging with this now. Legit retrauma. This is not what Psych Central should do. Those of you who are convinced I am judging or not listening to others are absolutely incorrect. If you think otherwise, prove it. Otherwise, go back and read your own posts and ask yourselves honestly if you are being non-judgmental.

I am done engaging with this.

Please don't project this onto me. Ironically it is the opposite here. Thanks for retraumatizing me.

Curious how ignorance is a sign of insulting others? Ignorance is merely not knowing enough about something to fully understand it.

This is my final post on this thread. If anyone wants to see how easily this whole thing had been misconstrued, go read posts 88 and 90 on this thread.

Here is post 88:

And here is post 90:

FWIW-I thought most of your posts were respectful and thoughtful. I feel bad because I do think your intentions were to discuss the actual topic, and I don't understand why people not engaging in the conversation came on the thread to scold you.

There was plenty of snark, condescending words, insults, and judgment in several posts/posters, so I'm unsure why you are being singled out other than that there is some kind of social hierarchy on this forum that I don't quite understand. I really tried to avoid engaging in this discussion but I'm not here to win a popularity contest and felt a need to stick up for you given the above. Take care.

Thank you Octoberful, I appreciate that you see it objectively. The support means a lot and I will try to calm myself as now my body is in fight / flight mode.

I forgot to tell you-no one seemed to pick up on this, but you have been stating all along that your opinion is that certain characteristics are inherent to the therapy relationship, and people keep telling your opinion is invalid and so were actually doing what you have been accused of doing.

I don't agree with everything you said but think the misunderstanding surrounds the use of the definition of inherent.

I understand about fight or flight, and when several people seem to gang up and empathy may be lacking. It's not a good place to be.

I think its worth remembering that most members here have some form of a mental illness or trauma, substance issue, personality disorder, anxiety issue, abuse issue are in therapy or take meds. So that means we can all be at the mercy of our illnesses sometimes.

I knew this tread was not going to end well the minute the personal attacks presented as "disagreements" started. This is just one of the many (unfortunately) disturbing experiences here when you watch human beings acting like a pack of predators ganging up on the vulnerable person who is clearly traumatized as a result of what her therapist did. Have people completely lost basic compassion?

I can understand "disagreements" in the sense that someone may not see this issue as an abuse of power. What I don't understand is the need to engage in the debate with traumatized people, who see their own experiences that way and who, being in the traumatized state of mind, don't need to be put in the position where they would have to defend the legitimacy of their victimization. I don't care if you don't see someone as a victim, but if the person considers themselves to be one, this has to be respected, especially when they are clearly hurting. Just keep your "disagreements" to yourself and move along. Just because you have the "right" to express yourself doesn't mean you always have to do it.

There were threads on this forum posted by those who were hurt by therapists but didn't consider themselves victims. I see their experiences completely differently from how they see it, but I respected their need to be understood on their own terms. Since I couldn't express my empathy because of my own strong feelings and strong beliefs about this topic, I showed my respect by not commenting on those threads. I kept my "disagreements" to myself and moved along.

To me this is not just a matter of basic empathy but also common sense. We all know that certain topics are triggering to some people and, in real life, we try to avoid getting into debates about them. For instance, many people take their religious beliefs very seriously and very personally and are very sensitive to any criticism of their faith. I suspect, most of us would not want to start debating them about their religion because we wouldn't want to hurt their feelings and also because such debates are utterly pointless and stupid because they don't change anyone's mind. No one with some basic common sense would want to get into such debates. Then why are people doing it here? I suspect it's because the anonymity of the forum makes it easy to get away with it. I doubt that the same people would talk to each other in person the way they talk here.

Anyway, this is why I have never and would never refer any survivor of therapist abuse to a general public forum. This is a place where you get re-abused, not a place to get support and healing.

This thread feels like reading exactly same posts page after page. I had to check few times if the next page loaded at all.

This thread is being closed for administrative review.