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#61
Is it possible that the reason he doesnt want to talk about it all the tune us because it is so chronic? By always focusing on that topic you are not getting to the deeper issues which if addressed could possibly with time help you with the chronixh or hopeless, suicidality, or whatever else is going on. Obviously, I don't know either of you just a thought
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I saw my doctor today. She will absolutely not put me on meds, which is a bit of a relief.
I also found a therapist for the summer. He's male, PhD, and christian - everything I wanted. And also expensive...but current T said I only have to go every second week so I should be ok. |
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#63
I think spending money on yourself and your health is a good investment. I'm glad you found someone.
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I am so glad you have found someone for the summer. Hugs
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Why won't your doctor put you on meds? That seems kind of... idk... wrong, somehow. I mean, you've attempted suicide before. What would you have to do to get an antidepressant? I'm glad you feel relieved; I guess I just feel really bad for other people who genuinely need and want medication and are denied it. My understanding is that waiting lists for Medicare-funded therapy in Canada are long, and that the therapy is time limited. So I wonder what happens to people who can't afford to pay a therapist out of pocket and who are also denied medication from a GP...
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There is a ton of anecdotal evidence online of people going thru horrific withdrawal syndromes when trying to get off ADs. There is research showing that drugged people tend to fare badly long term, not just mentally but physically (i.e. many organ systems effected). Investigative journalist Robert Whitaker has covered this extensively. Far as i know, ADs do not treat any known imbalance or disorder. Rather they introduce pathology where none existed previously. And there is no objective testing to establish the patient's particular chemistry before the drugging begins. Doctors hand these drugs out like candy, not because they work or are safe, but because it's profitable to do so, and it's easy, and nobody holds them accountable. I think if you want help with the physiological aspects of sui thoughts or depression, functional medicine is worth a try. |
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"Natural" and/or herbal supplements' contents are not regulated and their effects are not scientifically supported. Regular cardio-vascular exercise has been shown scientifically to have value, but if it's not enough that's not a judgement on anyone. Mental illness like clinical depression is more than just a bad day and deserves scientifically supported medical treatment. I will clarify my statements on safety, less for you than for others reading this thread. I am not expecting to change your mind. Modern antidepressants (SSRIs and SNRIs) have far fewer side effects than their predecessors, the tricyclics (TCAs) and MAOIs. They are also far less dangerous in overdose (which is to say, they are much much less likely to result in death). And yes, you are correct - some people experience "withdrawal" or "discontinuation syndrome", but the medical field is increasingly aware of it and familiar with how to treat it, and it is still uncommon. I would argue that fear of possible discomfort coming off a medication should not cause one to completely write off ever using it appropriately as prescribed. Remember that anecdotal evidence on the internet by its very nature skews negative because people who are doing well for the most part don't think to post about it. To the OP: I'm glad you've found some support for the summer and I hope it works well for you. That, ultimately, is what matters most. |
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Psychiatry and pharma insiders have admitted that the narrative behind ADs is largely BS. I know this thread is not about debating drugs, but discussions like this one can be kinda dangerous without diversity of viewpoint, and when industry propaganda is presented as truth. I personally would not let any MD screw with my brain chemistry. Not if you paid me. There are many interventions and remedies for depression and other afflictions that do not come with such hideous risks and side effects. Functional medicine is root cause medicine. Conventional medicine is about suppression. Therapy and psychiatry are the embodiment of pseudoscience. Clearly they can and do help some people, but let's be real. |
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I must be the exception then. I have been stable on meds for 15 years...no self harm, no psychosis. They saved my life.
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Do Antidepressants Work? A People's Review of the Evidence - Mad In America This covers a long term study on ADs (30 yrs)... https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/488802 Also i found Whitaker's book "Anatomy of An Epidemic" a huge eye opener. The main finding of the book is that mental illness in America has exploded in lockstep with the proliferation of psychiatric drugs. |
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