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Default May 10, 2019 at 02:13 PM
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Didn't you see this therapist years ago, so she knows you, and wasn't she involved in discussions with your other therapist recently? So the reality is that this "three sessions" in isn't really that she's only seen you for 3 sessions and otherwise had no contact with you. She's your former therapist IIRC and has been involved in your previous treatment with the therapist who is going on leave. It seems to me that she knows you quite well.

I also think that if you're not interested in any kind of change, there's nothing wrong with that. But is no change helping you progress in your life? It's quite possible to integrate alters without losing your ability to keep yourself safe. In fact, it's quite possible to improve your ability to be self protective in perhaps more "mature" ways and do some integration at the same time. I don't buy your logic but then again, I have no interest in what you do with your therapy. I would just point out that I remember many of the things you've posted in the past months, and it wasn't even that long ago you were insisting you didn't have DID and your last therapist didn't know what she was doing either. And now you're taking the position that you don't want your DID to change.

In your past therapy, you also repeatedly refused to follow suggestions your other therapist would make. Same reactions to your postings (by other posters) as in this one-- your therapist is crazy, she doesn't know what she's doing, etc. You are very talented in portraying your therapists as nincompoops.

With your last therapist, you would agree to try her approach, and it would help you make progress and accept a certain understanding of your life. It seemed to me that you made enormous progress away from a very painful place. Given the past history, I think it makes sense to at least consider trying what your therapist recommends. It's worked in the past, big time. The emphasis is on "try", see what happens. I think you are always afraid of change. Not sure that serves you, and perhaps exploring your reasons in therapy would be useful.

I'm not interested in telling you that you have to do therapy a certain way. I'm also not interested in arguing with you or making you feel bad about whatever choice you do make. I'd just encourage you to not make any decisions that foreclose possibilities, and discuss your concerns with your therapist. As you've said, this is your only option for right now. Either make good use of the therapy or don't, and perhaps try not to fall through the same trap door over and over. Good luck.
She doesnt remember me. Only remembers I took some kind of test that she doesnt even have anymore.
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I think Sybil was found to have been faking the whole thing to make the therapist like her more (Note - I am NOT suggesting this is what OP or others who post here are doing -- just the case of Sybil and what I remember coming out in later years)

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Yeah, I think she did say that - Sybil, I mean.

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Yeah, that is true about Sybil. Idk what I should do. If I should just ride it out with this one until my t comes back but refuse any hypnosis. The thing though is I was hoping this time between when my t comes back I could learn more about DID. Because my t knows nothing about it. This doctor seems to think everything is DID though. I could tell her I had a scratch and she would be like thats DID which was my number 1 concern in seeing her again. She told me I have a perpetrator alter. I understand why she said it and I wont go into all of that but how does she know its a alter and not something else? I could possibly find a T that specializes in DID but not a doctor. They are few and far between where I am. Idk what to do. She does seem quite knowledgeable about DID.
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I am still confused on the system thing. You mean they are alters but dont work together?
Would it be dangerous to do hypnosis to find out why they were created and when? Then work up to combining them and age progressing them?

Update: I talked to her on the phone about how to talk to the alters about why and when they came. She said if I dont hear from them yet thats not unusual it may just start with a feeling but she would teach me how to get in touch with them and I shouldnt need hypnosis for that. I was also wondering what if I want them to stay? I feel like they are my friends. I just dont like Thorne akaVeronica becsuse she is bad but I think integrating her would be a very bad idea. She is an alter for a reason. I cant handle her emotions.
no thats not what I mean.

systems is just a fancy word that means how things work, how you do things.

your alters dont have a set way of doing things on their own any more. it kind of is like how in real life you know that one friend that when ever they tell you something their story changes and they tell it differently each time and behaves differently each time they tell you the same story. things get all mixed up together

when you switch into your alters the "stories" are all mixed up, it may be one alter telling the story but while telling the story they are acting like this alter and using a different alters words and using another alters facial expressions. so who's really telling the story here, they are all mixing together with no real patterns of how things are being done. there is no set way (system) to your alters.

this usually happens when someone has come along way in their therapy and has done lots of research, and well coming online asking bunches of questions about dissociative disorders and getting answers.

thorne veronika. when she is integrated with you. you will have the ability to decide for yourself if you want to act out like her or act and behave like you, just like you now van decide whether you want to behave or pick a fight with someone. or go out to dinner or watch this tv show.
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She doesnt remember me. Only remembers I took some kind of test that she doesnt even have anymore.
Exactly. She doesn't know you, you don't know her, and neither of you know your alters or even if they are in fact true dissociative alters.

Some people here have posted you have done a lot of healing with both this therapist and others but from all you have posted here over the last few months that is not the case at all. You are absolutely not ready for integration of traumas you have no awareness of and parts you don't know.

Moreover, SHE has - NO IDEA - about what traumas may or many not be there and what any alters may or may not be protecting. Messing with that kind of unknown is unethical at best and could completely destabilize and drive you over the edge at worst.

The whole idea of it is absolutely absurd.
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She seems tunnel-visioned.
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Exactly. She doesn't know you, you don't know her, and neither of you know your alters or even if they are in fact true dissociative alters.

Some people here have posted you have done a lot of healing with both this therapist and others but from all you have posted here over the last few months that is not the case at all. You are absolutely not ready for integration of traumas you have no awareness of and parts you don't know.

Moreover, SHE has - NO IDEA - about what traumas may or many not be there and what any alters may or may not be protecting. Messing with that kind of unknown is unethical at best and could completely destabilize and drive you over the edge at worst.

The whole idea of it is absolutely absurd.


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I was going to post and add what I think but I believe Amyjay has said everything I would have.
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I was going to post and add what I think but I believe Amyjay has said everything I would have.
So what do I do?
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What do you do? That has to be YOUR decsion.We can tell you what we think but we can't tell you what to do.
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I am contacting another therapist to switch.

This one specializes in PTSD and Dissociative Disorders and uses these techniques

Attachment-based
Cognitive Behavioral (CBT)
Expressive Arts
Family Systems
Gestalt
Person-Centered
Psychodynamic
Sandplay
Solution Focused Brief (SFBT)
Trauma Focused

Wish me luck please.

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Good luck,for real,I hope it all goes well for you
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Good luck, Dnester. I hope you find a therapist who is trustworthy, respectful and is able to support and guide you in your quest for self understanding with an open mind.
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Thanks guys I just have to go with my gut instinct. I took some test with this lady 15 years ago I dont even remember what the test was or said. She just remembers my diagnosis. Does not have my records. Met with my therapist one time and has seen me 3 times and claims I have a perpetrator alter and I should consolidate all my littles. What if that messes me up? Its just not a risk I am willing to take to continue seeing her.
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Wishing you luck as well! From all I can tell, your instinct is right.
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I am contacting another therapist to switch.

This one specializes in PTSD and Dissociative Disorders and uses these techniques

Attachment-based
Cognitive Behavioral (CBT)
Expressive Arts
Family Systems
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Person-Centered
Psychodynamic
Sandplay
Solution Focused Brief (SFBT)
Trauma Focused

Wish me luck please.
Question do you know what SFBT is and how to do it...

this is a therapy where you and the therapist will be setting up a treatment plan where it may seem like your therapist is pushing you very hard and does not go into past issues. it keeps you focused on finding solutions for the problems you are having today and teaches you to think not in a way where you expect others to tell you what to do. the therapist is going to have you questioning and answering for your beliefs, problems and going way beyond what you can find online or in books and movies.

here is an example ....

Therapist.... Hi amanda on a scale of 1-10 how are you feeling today?

Amanda.... Hi T.Im feeling about a 3 right now.

T...............What makes it a 3 instead of say a 4 or 5?

Amanda ....This happened this morning and that happened this morning, this person did this and this is going on in my head and...

T.............If a Miracle happened tonight while you were sleeping and those problems were not there what would your life look like?

Amanda .... what would my life be like if all this wasnt happennig?

T... yes if something happened during the night while you were sleeping that solved all these problems what would your life look like?

Amanda..... it would look like a 10 on the scale

T... what does a 10 look like to you?

Amanda.........it looks like..........

T...... ok in order to remove these problems while you are sleeping what would this miracle need to include?

the interview questions continue until you find your own solutions to your problems. it forced you to think not in terms of theres one right answer and to focus on what your own present life is like and what you need to solve those problems. leads you into being in control of your own healing, whether you heal from your problems is all in your own hands.

it does not focus on a specific mental disorder, getting diagnosis's and learning about various mental disorders. and it does not focus on looking at the past, your alters and all that.

its all focused on finding out what your problems are today in your life and finding solutions for those problems in your day to day life. it is very structured, kind of feels almost like you did in school when a teacher caught you not paying attention and threw a question your way. the questions are asked in a way that you can not formulate answers ahead of time and because they are answers about you and your own life its not something you can find in books and on the internet.

its actually a really good therapy technique that my own therapists and I have used in my life. it takes some getting used to and most people I tell about it online think my therapist is doing things wrong, is weird, strange, doesnt know anything...because this therapy approach is so different than the typical therapy stuff,

this therapy actually moves you along into healing faster because its all focused on finding solutions rather than delving into the past. no one tells you what to do, how to do it nor what your problems are called. so their opinions are not getting in the way of who and how you do things.

by the way yes this works for healing from all mental disorders. a person doesnt have to know all their alters and all their traumas to do this kind of therapy. you just go in and the therapist asks you questions and you answer based on your scales that you and your therapist set up about you, you answer the questions as they relate to you and the questions keep coming until you figure out what you want to do about your problem.
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Question do you know what SFBT is and how to do it...

this is a therapy where you and the therapist will be setting up a treatment plan where it may seem like your therapist is pushing you very hard and does not go into past issues. it keeps you focused on finding solutions for the problems you are having today and teaches you to think not in a way where you expect others to tell you what to do. the therapist is going to have you questioning and answering for your beliefs, problems and going way beyond what you can find online or in books and movies.

here is an example ....

Therapist.... Hi amanda on a scale of 1-10 how are you feeling today?

Amanda.... Hi T.Im feeling about a 3 right now.

T...............What makes it a 3 instead of say a 4 or 5?

Amanda ....This happened this morning and that happened this morning, this person did this and this is going on in my head and...

T.............If a Miracle happened tonight while you were sleeping and those problems were not there what would your life look like?

Amanda .... what would my life be like if all this wasnt happennig?

T... yes if something happened during the night while you were sleeping that solved all these problems what would your life look like?

Amanda..... it would look like a 10 on the scale

T... what does a 10 look like to you?

Amanda.........it looks like..........

T...... ok in order to remove these problems while you are sleeping what would this miracle need to include?

the interview questions continue until you find your own solutions to your problems. it forced you to think not in terms of theres one right answer and to focus on what your own present life is like and what you need to solve those problems. leads you into being in control of your own healing, whether you heal from your problems is all in your own hands.

it does not focus on a specific mental disorder, getting diagnosis's and learning about various mental disorders. and it does not focus on looking at the past, your alters and all that.

its all focused on finding out what your problems are today in your life and finding solutions for those problems in your day to day life. it is very structured, kind of feels almost like you did in school when a teacher caught you not paying attention and threw a question your way. the questions are asked in a way that you can not formulate answers ahead of time and because they are answers about you and your own life its not something you can find in books and on the internet.

its actually a really good therapy technique that my own therapists and I have used in my life. it takes some getting used to and most people I tell about it online think my therapist is doing things wrong, is weird, strange, doesnt know anything...because this therapy approach is so different than the typical therapy stuff,

this therapy actually moves you along into healing faster because its all focused on finding solutions rather than delving into the past. no one tells you what to do, how to do it nor what your problems are called. so their opinions are not getting in the way of who and how you do things.

by the way yes this works for healing from all mental disorders. a person doesnt have to know all their alters and all their traumas to do this kind of therapy. you just go in and the therapist asks you questions and you answer based on your scales that you and your therapist set up about you, you answer the questions as they relate to you and the questions keep coming until you figure out what you want to do about your problem.
That sucks this whole three months is supposed to be about dealing with dissociative disorder issues. I will be sure to ask her if she can help me in other ways then or I will end up having to stay with my Psychologist.
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Though this prospective T may have training in all of the methods listed, I would hope that they would choose their modality based on what's best for the client in front of them, rather than taking a 'lucky dip' approach.

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Many T's list various methods in which they have training, then use what will be most useful to the client. So that doesn't mean she'd used the brief form on you. As I've been told before, the first session is partly for you to interview the T, to see if they seem like a good fit. Ask her how she'd plan to address your specific issues, what methodologies/techniques she'd use. If it doesn't seem like it would work for you, move on.
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