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Default May 19, 2019 at 02:32 PM
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I think many people here in PC would be happier without or with less attachment to their therapist

Didn't the other T suggest some other kind of dissociative disorder? I think it is a spectrum, much like many other mental health diagnoses. The classifications are for the sake of description, but I don't think any two people with the same formal mental health diagnosis experience them in an identical way and with the same severity and these things often even fluctuate over time for one person. This is part of the reason it is so challenging to treat mental health issues and they change and shuffle the diagnostic terms because, clearly, these things are not so well-defined.

Maybe it is not that important what it is called and more constructive to focus on your actual challenges in therapy? There are people here on PC who talk about having issues with dissociation but do not experience losing time and a strong disconnection, more like different (and often conflicting) motivations, desires, feelings, even behaviors. Maybe what would help is to just focus on the process and engage in a treatment plan - see what happens, perhaps you would get more comfortable with a diagnosis over time as you get to know these different motivations, forces, parts, alters... call them whatever.

This skepticism and hesitation of yours reminds me a bit of something I have seen in people who struggle with addictions many times. They often refuse the label because there is so much stigma associated with it and also because they don't fully want to give up whatever habit they have. I am personally one that finds diagnoses useful and don't mind at all, but often say it does not matter what we call it - is it a problem or not? Do you want to work on it or not? If yes, focus on the work. If not, why think about it and spend time investigating it?
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Default May 19, 2019 at 02:45 PM
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I dont want to focus on this anymore because I just dont think its real but currently its my main struggle so I feel I should work on it. Im so confused.
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Default May 19, 2019 at 03:15 PM
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Hard to know for sure, I think....denial is a natural occurrence especially in the beginning of trying to figure it out.

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Default May 19, 2019 at 03:48 PM
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I dont want to focus on this anymore because I just dont think its real but currently its my main struggle so I feel I should work on it. Im so confused.
Dnester how about instead of focusing on the big picture of things like diagnosis, whether or not youi have it, whether or not its real...

focus on picking one of your symptoms...

examples of symptoms no matter what disorder a person may have...

anger
anxiety
feeling depressed,
feeling like the world around you is moving too fast
feeling like the world around you is moving too slow
feeling confused
(in other words not having any physical or mental feelings)
Stress
managing bills
managing basic needs like food clothing and shelter

see even though someone may have a mental disorder basic therapy for mental disorders is learning how to manage how you feel and notice when you are feeling things, and taking care of things that upset you / trigger you,

there is no magic treatment for any disorders, getting the name of a disorder just says hey this is whats been happening my whole life. it changes nothing.

people with DID and any other disorders work on the same things.... getting their daily life stabilized and learning how to take care of their own feelings.

my point is maybe its time to do what your treatment providers keep telling you to do... give up on trying to label yourself into a disorder box. instead take care of learning how to live in the present moment, learning what triggers you and taking care of your own self care, your own emotions...

see the bigger picture instead of narrowing yourself into a confusing and stressful cause your self more harm box.

just take it one day at a time, see the positives in your life and go from that angle.

your last posting on therapy work was that you and your treatment provider are using IFS therapy. this therapy is for any problems not directly related to dissociative disorders. its going to help you to stay focused on not dissociating, recognizing your feelings and stabilizing you.

please stop trying to get an actual diagnosis name. each time you talk with your treatment providers you post a different disorder name and then go through this denial got to know/ OCD like process.

my opinion is that its time to let go of diagnosis names and focus on your other problems for a bit. you can always later on when you are less confused and more stable figure out the diagnosis problems.

when ever I am backed into a wall about something taking a break from that something actually does a great deal to bring that problem more clarity and sureness, less confusion.
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Default May 20, 2019 at 08:31 AM
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Dnester how about instead of focusing on the big picture of things like diagnosis, whether or not youi have it, whether or not its real...

focus on picking one of your symptoms...

examples of symptoms no matter what disorder a person may have...

anger
anxiety
feeling depressed,
feeling like the world around you is moving too fast
feeling like the world around you is moving too slow
feeling confused
(in other words not having any physical or mental feelings)
Stress
managing bills
managing basic needs like food clothing and shelter

see even though someone may have a mental disorder basic therapy for mental disorders is learning how to manage how you feel and notice when you are feeling things, and taking care of things that upset you / trigger you,

there is no magic treatment for any disorders, getting the name of a disorder just says hey this is whats been happening my whole life. it changes nothing.

people with DID and any other disorders work on the same things.... getting their daily life stabilized and learning how to take care of their own feelings.

my point is maybe its time to do what your treatment providers keep telling you to do... give up on trying to label yourself into a disorder box. instead take care of learning how to live in the present moment, learning what triggers you and taking care of your own self care, your own emotions...

see the bigger picture instead of narrowing yourself into a confusing and stressful cause your self more harm box.

just take it one day at a time, see the positives in your life and go from that angle.

your last posting on therapy work was that you and your treatment provider are using IFS therapy. this therapy is for any problems not directly related to dissociative disorders. its going to help you to stay focused on not dissociating, recognizing your feelings and stabilizing you.

please stop trying to get an actual diagnosis name. each time you talk with your treatment providers you post a different disorder name and then go through this denial got to know/ OCD like process.

my opinion is that its time to let go of diagnosis names and focus on your other problems for a bit. you can always later on when you are less confused and more stable figure out the diagnosis problems.

when ever I am backed into a wall about something taking a break from that something actually does a great deal to bring that problem more clarity and sureness, less confusion.
I try to focus on other things. Everytime I do she says thats DID.
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Default May 20, 2019 at 09:17 AM
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I try to focus on other things. Everytime I do she says thats DID.
maybe and this is just a guess here, but maybe just maybe the reason why she is saying its DID is because you are not letting go of this...

let me show you something ...

a child on a playground talking with their friend says the sand is wet, another child says no it isnt, another child says I dont care if its wet or dry its still fun to play with.

which two are going to get into a battle of the wills...

the one saying its wet and the one saying its dry start talking over and over again and maybe getting into an argument over whether the sand is wet or dry.

whats the out come...

either the child saying its wet is going to give up trying to convince the one saying its dry and just agree that its dry

or

the child saying its dry is going to get to the point where they give up and say ok its wet.

you have been going round and round trying to get your therapists to say you have DID for many months now.

if you reread your past posts you will see how the progression of this issue has gone from one mental disorder to another until finally they are giving you what you wanted.. calling your problems DID to you, and calling it adjustment disorder on the files.

Im so sorry Dnestor but only you can decide what you want to do about this unending loop you are in. you have options...

you can decide that getting a diagnosis name is what you want and continue in this stressful loop

you can decide names dont matter lets get to work on something different.

then which ever way you decide talk with your therapist, let them know how ........You........ want to proceed on this issue of being called DID after months of trying to get them to call it DID.

its ok to not want to be called DID but after months of constantly questioning and pushing them into giving you the diagnosis name, you may need to actually tell them that you no longer want the diagnosis name.
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Default May 20, 2019 at 09:28 PM
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I have talked to her many times about how I do not think this is DID and everything I tell her she says I do and I am denial. So it doesnt seem to matter what I want or dont want to be called. She made that call even before I started seeing her again because we talked on the phone. Whenever I mention another issue like the sexual stuff she says thats DID. Thats a sexual alter.
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I have talked to her many times about how I do not think this is DID and everything I tell her she says I do and I am denial. So it doesnt seem to matter what I want or dont want to be called. She made that call even before I started seeing her again because we talked on the phone. Whenever I mention another issue like the sexual stuff she says thats DID. Thats a sexual alter.
what about using your 20 years of studying mental health as a way to talk with your treatment provider?

its up to each one of us who are in therapy to figure out how to work with our treatment providers and what to do about our therapy issues.

no one here can tell you what to do about your therapists and what they tell you and whether you want to follow what they tell you or not...

If I remember right I read somewhere in your posts that you have 20 years experience with studying mental health. maybe you can use what you learned all those years to figure out what you want out of therapy and what you want to do about the fact that you have 2 therapists that you are having problems with.

Im sorry but theres nothing we can do, we cant tell you what to do all we can do is tell you what we would do in the same situation.

me when I am having trouble with my therapists I sit down and think about our time together and how to either work with that therapist or not ever go back to them and get another one.

thats all any of us can do. you know you have options based on what your own therapy sessions are like, what you learned in those 20 years of studying mental heath and what you want out of therapy.

Assuming you are not a minor you make all the decisions of what you want for treatment providers, treatment options and so forth.

if you are a minor or have a guardian or someone else in charge of who you see and why and what you do in therapy you will need to sit down with them and figure things out with them.
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