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Grand Poohbah
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#41
Thanks. At the moment Iīm only seeing her for evaluation sessions, four times. I have two sessions left. I was referred to her clinic after Iīve seen several psychiatric nurses and other staff at a clinic for depression and anxiety disorders and they donīt offer psychotherapy. By that I was sent to this therapist.
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Grand Poohbah
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#42
Thanks. I was sent there as they donīt offer psychotherapy at the clinic I was at before. I donīt think I have a more complex diagnosis as I have went through a more thorough evaluation a year ago where they tested me for diagnoses like ADHD and autism and they didnīt find anything.
I havenīt seen my psychiatric nurse in a while but as those two clinics are separate itīs not much she can do about the situation. The referall seemed to be the only valid choice but after meeting with this new therapist there seem to be some miscommunication between those two clinics. |
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#43
I think when the premise is that a problem caused by therapy should be the content of therapy, one should be very skeptical. Starts to look like a form of racketeering.
Also, if the goal is to avoid unhealthy situations and retain some self-respect, i think it's more prudent to walk away from something that feels degrading or unnatural, than it is to continue based on intellectual rationalizations. |
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Grand Poohbah
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#44
Thanks. I think itīs good a T can withstand negative feelings from a client but if most of the session consists of me having negative feelings towards her it just creates an unpleasant atmosphere.
Iīm going to try to see her for those four evaluation sessions that are already scheduled. I told her last time that I didnīt feel support from her but at the same time I said to her I know those first sessions are more of an interview. Quote:
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If the therapist prioritized a pleasant atmosphere, for me, that would send the message that my "unpleasant" feelings and thoughts are something I should keep to myself. I would hesitate to bring anything "negative" into the space. I value that the therapist, who is psychodynamic, does not make me feel like I'm on a social call where it would be inappropriate to engage in conflict. __________________ Life is hard. Then you die. Then they throw dirt in your face. -David Gerrold |
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Grand Poohbah
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#46
Thanks. Yes, as you say I also think there has to be some kind of relating besides just focusing on issues and problems. I think my new T is the kind of T that thinks frustrating the client is the way to healing and I donīt agree on that.
Thereīs no clinic where you can get a long-term psychotherapy within public health care based on a depression and anxiety diagnosis only. There seems to be some kind of miscommunication between the two clinics, my former and this current where this new T works. I donīt know what theyīll do with me next as me and this new T probably wonīt continue together and at the former clinic they donīt offer psychotherapy, just brief counselling. Quote:
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#47
I liked what you wrote @Xynesthesia2 because it highlights for me how people differ in how emotionally demonstrative they are. It's not just "it feels wrong", it's "people differ in their personalities so there is no one size fits all psychotherapy". I didn't know that about therapists, really.
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#48
I think that there can be valid reasons for not wanting to do therapy with an emotionally undemonstrative or disengaged helper. I suffered a traumatising education for 7 years as a result of being fast-tracked to an elite school. The teachers all saw me as "different" from their normal intake and hence my simple presence was a nuisance to them. As a result of this on top of my family history of violence I became completely unable to use words. Expressive speech had been taken away because my social origin didn't match the dominant behaviour.
Until I met a therapist who "got" my social origin, I was never going to be able to speak coherently about myself again. Someone had to reconnect for me what was completely and utterly broken. You can't do that work of reconnection as an analytic observer: you have to model the connection. Horses for courses. On the other hand you can't be oversensitive about any situation in life. Have to persevere when stuff is difficult. __________________ *"Fierce <-> Reality"* oh god I am struggling today, help me to remember how to stay connected and human! remember: the nut shell against human predators and my own fear! |
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#49
I can understand your wanting some social chats, sorta leading up to a deeper talk or even sharing...I felt the same with a therapist in 2018 to present. Much of this has to do with professional ethics and boundary's set by the profession as well as the individual. I think it may help to see some of the articles in the "Psychcentral Psychology" section, searching for articles like "boundaries" here and even general searches on Wikipedia google, etc brings up some great reading and understanding.
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I think engaging in social greetings has nothing to do with the type of therapy being provided. I have met many psychodynamic therapists that greet clients and make small remarks about things. Maybe this is her personality. She may just be very, very task oriented. But, I didn't like her statement about your case not being complex because you have anxiety and depression. It sounds rather dismissive (I can't think of another word).
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#51
Definitely not. The first T I ever saw was psychodynamic and she was a wonderful, caring human being who gave a lot of herself emotionally to help me. Ts are all different. She didn't mention anything about her family or private life though that I recall, which is somewhat different to later (humanistic) Ts I've seen.
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