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Default May 26, 2019 at 12:08 PM
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Hey! My therapist recently began somatic body work in addition to Internal Family Systems and somatic experiencing. I was wondering if anyone else had any experience with this treatment or with any other kind of touch within a psychotherapy session? I’m a little worried about this attachment therapy and transference (like mother transference, not sexual). Any comments are appreciated.
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Default May 26, 2019 at 08:08 PM
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I don't have any personal experience with SE therapy, but from what I have read on the forums I've heard it's quite helpful for dealing with CPTSD and devepmental trauma.

I was looking into doing either neurofeedback or SE a few years ago after I had read Bessel van der Kolk's book, 'The Body Keeps the Score' and I had stalled in talk therapy and wasn't getting better. Fortunately I found a great NFB practitioner before I could find a SE T and went that route. Doing the neurofeedback, in conjunction to working with my talk T, was hugely successful for me.
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I work with a massage therapist in addition to my T and she has a lot of counseling experience, I have found it helpful. My current T has used the tapping with EMDR with me, hugs and holds my hand, all of which I have found helpful. He is pretty touchy freely IRL so it is natural for him in session once he knows it is OK. I don’t think he has any training in somatic body work but I would be all in if he did.

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I started working with an SE practitioner about 6 months ago. It took 2-3 months before I was comfortable enough with her to do touch work. Now that we do, I really love it. I think it has kicked up the transference a bit faster than with my previous T, but to me it’s worth it and is just an inevitable part of the process that can be worked through. The contact is actually pretty awesome and is super helpful.

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Default May 27, 2019 at 08:23 AM
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I don’t have any wisdom in this topic but am also curious about it!
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Default May 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM
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It's something I do want to try.I did previously contact someone from the SE register, but he said he didn't have much training with BPD.So I left it for a bit- might try again when R goes on his summer break.

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I started working with an SE practitioner about 6 months ago. It took 2-3 months before I was comfortable enough with her to do touch work. Now that we do, I really love it. I think it has kicked up the transference a bit faster than with my previous T, but to me it’s worth it and is just an inevitable part of the process that can be worked through. The contact is actually pretty awesome and is super helpful.
Can I ask what type of touch work you do?
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We mostly do kidney work as far as SE touch goes, but T is also very naturally nurturing and touch focused. We’ve held hands, hugged, she’s even kissed my forehead. We are both straight married women, so nothing romantic, but recently she mentioned how she thought I didn’t get the attachment I needed from my mother (I grew up in a very abusive household with an alcoholic abusive father and a neglectful mother). I’m wondering if anyone else has had a therapist try to correct attachment through the use of you h and what that looked like. Thanks!
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Can I ask what type of touch work you do?
Yep!
We have done some kidney work, too... a few times on the SE table and once sitting on the couch. Towards the beginning we went a little faster and I held her hand, but it might have been too much for my system because I felt sick the following week, so we slowed down. Lots of her sitting next to me with her hand on my shoulder or upper back, and pendulating that. I react kinda strongly to the going away part of pendulation. Sometimes different objects are used as weights and I focus on how those sensations feel in my body. We’ve sat back-to-back on the floor once, too. I liked being able to sense her deep breathing and coregulate that way. Mostly it’s just been the hand on the back and a hug at the end of the session, though. I’m gonna try to be brave enough to ask for a hand hold again. I doubt there will ever be a forehead kiss, but I wouldn’t mind it.

It sounds like we had similar childhoods. My father was an abusive alcoholic and my mother was neglectful, too. Glad you are getting some help as an adult.

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OMgoodness. I could not even imagine being touched by a therapist. Just the thought of it makes me feel shameful.

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Lol Moxie it’s definitely not everyone’s cup of “T”!

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Default May 29, 2019 at 02:26 AM
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I have been working with a body psycotherapist for 2 years for CPTSD/ attachment stuff. I agree with the poster who said it speeds up the transference and I definitely have her placed in a maternal role. The touch has been extremely helpful and helped with being able to trust and open up as well as easing the shame I've always carried about who I am and my wants/needs.
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I’m so sorry that that makes you feel shameful! It’s not everyone’s thing for sure and I’ve filled out consent forms etc. It helps me to remain grounded and feel safe.
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Thanks for sharing, id like to have touch in my therapy.
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I’m so sorry that that makes you feel shameful! It’s not everyone’s thing for sure and I’ve filled out consent forms etc. It helps me to remain grounded and feel safe.
Which touch-based SE techniques have you found to be the most effective or helpful?

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Which touch-based SE techniques have you found to be the most effective or helpful?
Never tried any. Just the though of being touched by my therapist makes me feel shame. IDK what else to say about that.

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Which touch-based SE techniques have you found to be the most effective or helpful?
I’ve found kidney work very helpful. T will place her hand on my back at my kidney and apply pressure as we talk through body sensations, attachment, and do some internal family systems work. We’ve also done some boundary work that has been helpful where we practice asking for touch and then taking it away. Both have been very helpful.
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