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Grand Poohbah
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The Shrink Next Door
A cautionary tale at its most frightening, "The Shrink Next Door," is a serial podcast about an exploitative psychiatrist and his mark. I see this as an east coast version of the Brian Wilson-shrink relationship --the consequences of relinquishing too much control to a therapist, or anyone. Caveat: It's a worst-case therapy story. |
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At first I thought you were talking about Joseph Burgo.
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I can't stand Joseph Burgo. The the jury is still out on The Shrink Next Door story.
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Maybe I should give this podcast another try, MissBella. I’m sure I’d learn a lot. It’s just that I’m pretty sure I can see the way it’s heading, and it’s all so horribly depressing.....
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I can be added to the can't stand burgo list.
I read about the guy in the podcast. I don't know if I could listen to it. __________________ Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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I can understand why anyone wouldn't want to listen to it beyond simply the time investment. It's a tough story. Maybe hearing it helps me for forgive myself for my own suspension of judgment. It also stimulates my thinking about personal mythology and the strong need for shamans, safety and guidance.
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oh my! 😯 very interesting story so far. i've listened to the first two episodes and I'm absolutely intrigued. i can't wait to hear how this ends. thanks for sharing this 🙂
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I am glad it got posted and is on a podcast. __________________ Please NO @ Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. Oscar Wilde Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History - Laurel Thatcher Ulrich Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |
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Stopdog. Each podcast page includes some text offering an executive summary, if you’re interested. There’s so much podcast material out now, I rarely get to ones potentially of interest..
The story literally came to journalist Joe Nocera when Marty invited his South Hampton new neighbor to a party. The truth eventually unfolded, and Nocera spent several years in research. I think it’s well written. |
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agreed...it's well written and presented. the story about how this story came about is definilty quite interesting in its self.
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wow...just finished the 4th episode and of all the episodes so far, this one definitely resonates the most for me, especially Judith's story. it's unfortunate that there are others who have been harmed by this narcissistic shrink, but glad that Joe was able to locate and interview some of the other patients/clients and incorporate their experiences of their relationships and the therapy with Ike into this very peculiar story.
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I was struck most by the fact some patients and at least one colleague found Ike’s behavior acceptable.
My group therapy had no fun side, nothing extracurricular, just a whole group obediently at the feet of two scornful, useless authoritarians. But like in this “cult,” I had a difficult time escaping. |
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I tried to listen to this while working but I'm paying more attention to this than work so will have to listen after I finish my homework in the evenings... I am interested.
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I have not finished the whole podcast yet but, so far, I have been struck by Marty's own involvement as well. It is hard for me to comprehend how someone can get so enmeshed for so long but I guess it's only me as I fail to relate to many other types of long-term interpersonal enmeshment and dependency also reported on this forum. I've grown to accept that it is just something I will probably never fully comprehend but can be very real/serious for many people (just like my substance addiction was for me).
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Fortunately, friends' guidance saved me from my bully therapists, so, unlike Marty, I wasn't isolated. Marty also didn't have the internet when the relationship started. Reinforcement is critical when disentangling from a cult, I think. Then there's the unsourced quote: "It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." Many people want divine figures and strong men. |
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I think many of these dictator-like Ts are deeply insecure deep down and often are drawn to the profession because they learn they would be able to manipulate and take advantage of confused and vulnerable clients. I am pretty convinced that anyone who want to be cult leaders and dictators fall either in that category or have psychopathic tendencies. |
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A therapist I know non-professionally started to use interrogative protocol with me, posturing as if I were accountable to her. I no longer seek a guru, much less her, and I stopped her right away. I can imagine her with a vulnerable client. |
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