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Unhappy Jul 17, 2019 at 03:23 PM
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T and I got into a debate about my new diagnosis and I’m having trouble accepting it. I cried all session. Then when I left the office, I pulled over and sent an email saying that I’m not going to live with this diagnosis.

They must have gotten concerned so they called the mobile crisis unit to come to the house to check on me.

I’m having a rough day.
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It can be really difficult when we disagree with T or Pdoc about what’s going on. Try to remember that you are not a diagnosis (weather it is right or wrong) you are a person. The diagnosis it just a word they use between themselves to try and help better. Sometimes as therapy evolves so do perceptions and diagnosis...

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Hugs try to remember you are not the diagnoses and it's ok to not agree with it either. I hope everything will be ok hugs
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Thanks so much.

I think what is frustrating me about him right now is that I’m trying to open up and give him some more pieces of the puzzle including some painful things and he isn’t even paying attention to that.
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I want to talk to him about some painful memories but it’s hard to get in that right moment with him.
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He is a good doctor and I’ve been doing better this past year with him.

The T that I had before him was a joke. He always told me that I was entertaining so that lead to me going into session with him and trying to be entertaining. What a waste of time and money. Therapy isn’t about entertaining the therapist. I’m so glad that it ended with him last year. And he was encouraging friendship even when I told him that I still needed therapy.

I’m grateful for current T. I don’t know how to prove to him that I trust him. He doesn’t believe I trust him completely.
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Not sure I'm clear. Do you disagree with the dx or is naming it unacceptable? Remember it doesn't change anything or you...wrong or right. They could call it bananas if they wanted.
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I'm sorry you are going through this Hope. It's hard when we don't agree with a diagnosis. Just remember you aren't your diagnosis. You are so much more than that. The diagnosis at worst is just a label. At best its just a way for professionals to communicate with each other. If you are concerned it is going to change your treatment progress, keep talking to your T. HUGS Kit

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I don’t want this to ruin therapy with my T. I have to find ways to deal with it so I don’t end up walking away from T.
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Even with my first pdoc, I took the diagnosis names so personally and he tried to explain about it being a label and it’s needed for them to write prescriptions. They can’t write prescriptions without a diagnosis.
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I emailed my T the painful thing that I haven’t been able to speak about.
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Remember you are free to disagree with his diagnosis. You may argue about it...or you may chose to agree to disagree.

T’s sometimes get it wrong.

If he’s prescribing medication and you feel it’s helping, trust your feelings. Feel better.
If he’s prescribing medication and you feel it’s not helping, you have every right to refuse it.

About trust- trust is earned through trust-building experiences. You don’t need to give your trust away to him just to people-please him or to try to be a ‘good patient.’ You don’t need to give your trust away for fear of rejection. With everything you have been through he should certainly understand that concept.
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Remember you are free to disagree with his diagnosis. You may argue about it...or you may chose to agree to disagree.

T’s sometimes get it wrong.

If he’s prescribing medication and you feel it’s helping, trust your feelings. Feel better.
If he’s prescribing medication and you feel it’s not helping, you have every right to refuse it.

About trust- trust is earned through trust-building experiences. You don’t need to give your trust away to him just to people-please him or to try to be a ‘good patient.’ You don’t need to give your trust away for fear of rejection. With everything you have been through he should certainly understand that concept.
Thanks so much for that. I guess I felt scared to disagree with him. He didn’t listen to what I thought. It just felt like he was thinking that he’s the doctor so he was right.

I’m not sure what to do if we continue to disagree.
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Thanks so much for that. I guess I felt scared to disagree with him. He didn’t listen to what I thought. It just felt like he was thinking that he’s the doctor so he was right.

I’m not sure what to do if we continue to disagree.
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I thought I read you’ve already let him know you don’t agree with his recent diagnosis?

T can call your diagnosis anything he feels appropriate.

Ok, here’s a small example from my T. She says I have Depression, Anxiety and PTSD. I agree with her first two diagnosis’ but I feel I also have C-PTSD. We’ve talked about it. I think she said C-PTSD isn’t in the current diagnostic manual so she uses ‘PTSD.’ I understand but I disagree. We aren’t fighting about it. I’m not changing T’s over it. It doesn’t change what we do in therapy.

Is it possible for you to still receive benefit from seeing your T if you disagree with him?

I’m sorry you don’t feel he listens to you. Sometimes we have to make a point of bringing our concerns to their attention in therapy. You drive therapy, not him.

You’re doing good work. Keep going.
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I thought I read you’ve already let him know you don’t agree with his recent diagnosis?

T can call your diagnosis anything he feels appropriate.

Ok, here’s a small example from my T. She says I have Depression, Anxiety and PTSD. I agree with her first two diagnosis’ but I feel I also have C-PTSD. We’ve talked about it. I think she said C-PTSD isn’t in the current diagnostic manual so she uses ‘PTSD.’ I understand but I disagree. We aren’t fighting about it. I’m not changing T’s over it. It doesn’t change what we do in therapy.

Is it possible for you to still receive benefit from seeing your T if you disagree with him?

I’m sorry you don’t feel he listens to you. Sometimes we have to make a point of bringing our concerns to their attention in therapy. You drive therapy, not him.

You’re doing good work. Keep going.
I did tell him that I disagreed with the diagnosis.

I want to stay with him. I’m pretty sure we can get through this.
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I was dx with bpd 17yrs ago when I began the mental heath 'game' . I cried and cried. Real snot too!
It all seemed so hopeless. Read up on it and yes me and everyone else in the world exhibut some bullet point dx.

When I got this T she just smiled when I told her. She doesn't do labels.

Now? They were wrong. Plus even if they weren't, there's enough of me now to care less what they think .
It's all about inner resilience. If you've got that, none of those things effect you. In fact they never could. I just didn't know that then.

Therapy gave me, me. Barely out of medical sch jumped up psychiatrists, counsellors, unskilled People that have never done their own in depth therapy arent to be taken seriously.

The mental health game is one big hamster wheel. You can step off at any point.
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I’ve considered leaving therapy all together.

However, my pdoc does my medications and he won’t let me go back to just med management.

But, I feel discouraged going there and paying only to be treated for a misdiagnosis.

I don’t know why he doesn’t just let me go back to med management.
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I’ve considered leaving therapy all together.

However, my pdoc does my medications and he won’t let me go back to just med management.

But, I feel discouraged going there and paying only to be treated for a misdiagnosis.

I don’t know why he doesn’t just let me go back to med management.
Med management alone without therapy, particularly with certain diagnoses, is generally not terribly effective. Can I ask why specifically you disagree with his diagnosis? What criteria do you feel does not fit your symptoms?
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I don’t meet enough of the criteria to meet the diagnosis and my T just seemed like he wanted to stick it on there without taking other factors into consideration.
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I think it’s also the fact that he acts like he can’t be wrong. I tell him often that he is close-minded.
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