FAQ/Help |
Calendar |
Search |
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#1
I waited almost two and a half years to see a therapist and now itīs all over - after five sessions.
I disliked this therapist from the beginning but today I said I was willing to give it a chance anyway. But during this last session I felt very ill at ease and uncomfortable in how she talked to me and asked me questions so I shut down and didnīt want to talk to her. I have really tried to get her to understand what I need from a therapist, what had worked in previous therapies and so on. But she hardly discussed that with me. I cried a lot during this last session after she asked me if I wanted to schedule another session and I said no and that it didnīt feel well. So of course the entered the diagnoses talk and began to speculate and said she will recommend some testing. I have been a patient at this facility for years and Iīve already did a lot of tests and screenings. She didnīt mention a single thing about that she might not be the right therapist or if it was something she could do. Itīs all about diagnoses and putting labels on clients. She said like "we work this way" and I expected her to say something like that. Iīm glad I didnīt begin therapy with her but now Iīm back on square one. |
Reply With Quote |
Anonymous42119, chihirochild, Omers, SlumberKitty
|
Grand Member
Member Since Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 816
6 70 hugs
given |
#2
I'm sorry. The therapy fit is so important and really hard to come by. Are you able to request a different therapist?
|
Reply With Quote |
unaluna
|
Member
Member Since May 2016
Location: USA
Posts: 487
7 |
#3
Don't give up !
If you've been at the facility for years , they have plenty of records ,as to who and how you worked with X person or therapist . You have a right to read those records , make an appointment to read your records, make notes of who it was . Then make an appointment with the medical director ,head Proc, T supervisor . Don't focus on bad experiences or bad mouth the people that didn't work . Focus the conversation on who or what did work ,and ask for reassignment to 1st available with someone who is more like what has been successfull, they may not have an immediate opening ,however you should not have to go to the bottom of the list and wait for another random T opening. Make sure to use there own talking points against them . 1.Theres a shortage of mental health people 2. They aren't paid well 3. They have different styles And your talking points 1. Earlier intervention has better outcomes 2. You have a long history ,they know or can look up 3. Tell them who you did work well with Don't be a passive consumer , my mom taught me something that served me well in life " Be proactive not reactive" so go into that meeting as your best advocate , have what you want to say either written down or in notes that can keep you on track and convey what you need them to understand . "Squeaky wheels get the grease", start squeaking! |
Reply With Quote |
SarahSweden
|
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#4
Thanks. Yes, itīs fundamental for therapy to work. I donīt request another therapist as our mental health care system doesnīt offer that. Iīll be sent back to the former facility from which I was referred. I donīt know what'll happen as the reason for the referral to this T I now ended with was that the former facility didnīt offer psychotherapy but more of brief counselling and support during shorter periods of time.
|
Reply With Quote |
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#5
Thanks. Yes, Iīve done plenty of this before, I mean specifying what I look for and what works but our mental health care system isnīt working properly. There are very strict boundaries around whoīs in charge of which patients and which patients should get access to which kind of therapy.
The T I now ended with did specify what she thinks I need as I had sent her a document containing recommendations about therapy made by a psychologist I saw for some testing. That is, the T I now ended with knows what I need but she wonīt offer me that as therapists at her facility, more or less by principle, donīt work according to that. She knows I need a combination of supportive counselling and psychotherapy but for some reason they canīt give that to me at that facility. I agree one has to be proactive and not just react to what happens but within our mental health care the patientsī words arenīt worth much. Mostly they just look into diagnoses and make their decisions from that rather than listen to what a patient tells them. Quote:
|
|
Reply With Quote |
Grand Member
Member Since Jan 2018
Location: USA
Posts: 816
6 70 hugs
given |
#6
So do you have to pay for this therapy? Is there any option for private practice there? I wonder if someone does sliding fee therapy that you can find.
|
Reply With Quote |
SarahSweden
|
Member
Member Since Oct 2014
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 257
9 |
#7
The relationship between therapist and client is as, if not more, important than the therapist's actual skill.
Do you have private, employer-sponsored insurance or is it government care? How hard is it to get another therapist or get hooked up with another agency? |
Reply With Quote |
SarahSweden
|
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#8
Thanks. No, I donīt pay for therapy, itīs under public healthcare. I live on welfare so I donīt have money to pay a therapist, not even on a sliding fee.
|
Reply With Quote |
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#9
Thanks. Yes, I agree, I tried to explain to that T what lacked and what I needed but she didnīt want to adapt. I think it partly has to do with that sheīs working within public healthcare so every therapist has to adhere to policys set by the facility.
I have only access to government care/public health care and nothing else as I live on welfare. There are no other agencies in my area and Iīve already waited for so long I hadnīt switched anyway. It often take years if you switch agencys to get help at another one. Quote:
|
|
Reply With Quote |
Grand Magnate
Member Since Jun 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 3,515
11 1,429 hugs
given |
#10
That's too bad.
I didn't find private therapy that effective anyway, even after trying for years and years with many different therapists. For some people, and/or for some conditions, there just isn't effective good therapy (yet) IMO. What do you plan to do next? |
Reply With Quote |
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#11
Thanks. Iīm sorry you didnīt find private therapy effective, it seems so hard to find the right therapist. I think some therapists problematize too much and put too much focus on diagnoses but perhaps thatīs not what you experienced.
I donīt know what to do next, I still see my temporary counsellor. She isnīt a therapist so I canīt get any treatment from her but Iīll see if the facility comes up with some kind of solution for me. One of the biggest issues are that I need to see a therapist who also works with sexological issues and thatīs not what public mental health care offer here. Some therapists might be knowledgeable but many tend to minimize sexological issues into general talk about anxiety, shame and so on. Quote:
|
|
Reply With Quote |
Veteran Member
Member Since Mar 2019
Location: USA
Posts: 540
5 55 hugs
given |
#12
Quote:
It can be difficult to find the right therapist but also, therapy in general is just not helpful for everyone. I tend to think that most often, if someone has not found anyone helpful after years of trying and >3 Ts, it's probably a good idea to consider whether this form of help is compatible with that person at all. Not to put any blame on you, simply just like a certain career, environment, common medical treatment etc may not work for everyone. |
|
Reply With Quote |
here today, SarahSweden
|
Poohbah
Member Since Feb 2014
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,302
10 1,041 hugs
given |
#13
Maybe at your local university, they might have therapists-in-training. Would you be willing to try that?
__________________ In a world where you can be anything, be kind. ; |
Reply With Quote |
SarahSweden
|
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#14
Thanks. The sexual issues I have arenīt medical but need to be addressed within therapy. I think much has to do with our mental health care system where you canīt get easy access to longer therapies but only short CBT:s and other interventions.
Quote:
|
|
Reply With Quote |
Grand Poohbah
Member Since Jun 2014
Location: Sweden
Posts: 1,700
9 219 hugs
given |
#15
Thanks. No, I wouldnīt try a therapist in training as I need someone experienced who I can work with for a longer period of time. Those in training only offer limited therapies according to the length of their education and they donīt adapt to what the client needs.
I just feel itīs hopeless to get the help I need. |
Reply With Quote |
Reply |
|