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Default May 03, 2020 at 07:02 PM
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Hugs, TMC, this all sounds so stressful. I think it definitely makes sense to cover 1 and 2. Having some notes would help with that. As for 3...do you know if there are any rules about bringing it up? I guess I'm thinking of stuff on Law & Order (which is different because this is before a board) where prior bad acts sometimes can't be mentioned. That seems like something you should consult with someone on, whether someone at TELL or if you have someone acting as your advocate in this process.

Best of luck to you--update when you can...
The recordings and record of the complaint are public record & published online, so I don't imagine that there's any rule (certainly none I can find) about bringing it up - especially as it was found valid & he was put on probation because of it.

Edit: I'll talk to my own therapist, but he's never done this before. And I have no advocate. I am alone.
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Default May 09, 2020 at 07:51 AM
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I am so proud of you! I went back to read your other thread. I have had to file complaints against 2 Ts and hope to never have to again. Hang in there!
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Default May 12, 2020 at 05:13 PM
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I know this is hard. You are amazing for going through with this. I would absolutely bring up his other complaint. Maybe provide the board with the link to the complaint. It all helps.

It took about a year to get a verdict on my complaint. The board gave my ex t a pretty good discipline, but, not good enough. My lawyer will take care of the rest. Lol. At any rate, it's a looonnnggg process. One well worth it tho, in my experience. I wish you well!
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Default May 12, 2020 at 07:43 PM
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I'll be thinking about you tomorrow, TMC. And Happy Birthday to your daughter!

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Default May 12, 2020 at 07:48 PM
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Will also be thinking about you...Update when you can. Hugs...
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Default May 15, 2020 at 09:27 AM
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Thinking of you TMC.
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Default Jul 31, 2020 at 09:34 AM
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Hi all - a quick (and very late) update:
2 meetings have now taken place -- the complaint screening committee meeting and the initial full board review meeting. So, at this point, they've basically determined that violations of statutes "MAY" have occurred, and I am now awaiting the "informal interview" with my ex-therapist -- after which they will determine which statutes were officially violated & how to move forward. I've given statements at both meetings, and I will do so again at this next one.

Right now, the potential violations include:
gross negligence, exploitative relationship with a client, harm to a client, and inadequate record keeping (since he claims all of my therapy records were destroyed by rats)

Scott is basically taking the "I admit to everything; but I was trying to be a superman...and also what I didn't know last year (when that other complaint was heard), i couldn't have known years before (when he was seeing me)." But, he has also been caught now in some lies he told the board during that last complaint review, which was my whole reason for filing...so that's been good. I mean, he's not admitting to lying, but it's pretty obvious.

Unfortunately, I'm realizing that, even once this is over, it's not going to be "over" for me. I'm not going to leave this with closure. Which sucks.
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Default Jul 31, 2020 at 10:05 AM
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Rats ate your therapy notes? Yeah...

Maybe there won’t be closure, or maybe there will be, or maybe it will come in an unexpected form. But I think there is huge value to you in standing up for yourself and others, as you are doing, TMC.

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Default Jul 31, 2020 at 10:45 AM
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Yeah, the rats thing is...creative? I agree with @@ that standing up for yourself could have meaning to you and provide some sort of closure in a way. And give you validation that what he did was wrong.
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Default Jul 31, 2020 at 10:47 AM
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Obedient rats. I doubt his filing system involved a rat cage.
I'm sorry it's such a gruelling process.

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Default Jul 31, 2020 at 11:32 AM
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Rats? What a horrible person. I am losing faith in humanity hearing this bunch of BS. I am so sorry for having to deal with such gross negligence
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Default Jul 31, 2020 at 07:19 PM
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Thanks, all. I've been working with TELL (therapy exploitation link line) volunteers throughout this process, and they tell me the "rats ate my records" thing is actually a very common tactic -- usually "rats, flood, or fire," because turning over my therapy notes would likely do him more harm.

I've got recordings of the meetings & have slowly been listening through them with my therapist. It IS helpful to have his wrongdoing validated as "wrong," but my feelings are just so complicated...it's pretty excruciating -- trying to contain multiple realities/feelings at once. I loved him, and a part of me still does love him pretty desperately. I will swing one moment to the next from feeling horrendous guilt like I am doing something terribly wrong to someone who did something incredible for me...to anger and shame at having fallen for a manipulator's lies...and, the hardest thing: never really knowing the truth. I'll never know if he KNEW what he was doing was wrong... and that seems to make all the difference to me.
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Default Jul 31, 2020 at 07:19 PM
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Actually, I should edit that: he knew what he was doing was wrong -- that's why he kept it a secret. But, did he know what he was doing was harmful/harming me? That I don't know.
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Actually, I should edit that: he knew what he was doing was wrong -- that's why he kept it a secret. But, did he know what he was doing was harmful/harming me? That I don't know.
I am not sure there's a difference? Most things we know are wrong to do hurt other people or can hurt them. That's often why they're considered wrong, too.
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Another update:
The Arizona Board of Psychologist Examiners voted unanimously to pursue revoking my ex-therapist's license. At this point, it goes to a formal hearing in front of an Administrative Law Judge at the Office of Administrative Hearings unless my ex-therapists decides to voluntarily surrender his license instead. If he doesn't surrender his license and it does go to a hearing, I may have to testify.

It's been a long year...
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The Arizona Board of Psychologist Examiners voted unanimously to pursue revoking my ex-therapist's license. At this point, it goes to a formal hearing in front of an Administrative Law Judge at the Office of Administrative Hearings unless my ex-therapists decides to voluntarily surrender his license instead. If he doesn't surrender his license and it does go to a hearing, I may have to testify.


It's been a long year...
Hugs. I hope you don't have to testify if it causes you more anguish.
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Hugs, TMC. I hope he just gives up his license willingly. I'm glad they voted to revoke.
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Another update:
The Arizona Board of Psychologist Examiners voted unanimously to pursue revoking my ex-therapist's license. At this point, it goes to a formal hearing in front of an Administrative Law Judge at the Office of Administrative Hearings unless my ex-therapists decides to voluntarily surrender his license instead. If he doesn't surrender his license and it does go to a hearing, I may have to testify.

It's been a long year...
Good for you, toomanycats. You're doing great. What you are doing is SO valuable and worthwhile. Keeping jerks like this "therapist" from hurting other vulnerable people.


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Sigh. Ok. This is going to be heavy... so, today was the day where Scott was to surrender his license. I found out last night that another complaint had been filed. I found out today the full story.... Scott was NOT at the meeting...

The first complaint against Scott was made by an ex-husband. Then, came my complaint. Scott was going to fight losing his license w/ a lawyer at a formal hearing...until... the actual client from that first complaint made HER complaint. Alleging that Scott did therapy w/ her nude, sent naked photos, and that she performed oral sex on him . This made Scott choose to give up his license...and this matter is now being sent to the police as it is considered rape .

I have a ton of feelings going on right now...I don't have much I can really say. I feel very sick.
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Default Nov 06, 2020 at 03:22 PM
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Oh wow, TMC, I can imagine that would be very difficult to deal with learning that information. I'm sorry....Can you talk to your current T?
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