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chihirochild · Jan 18, 2020 at 08:29 PM

Ugh I’m dreading having to work in the ICU tomorrow. It just scares the crap out of me.

Blueberry21 · Jan 18, 2020 at 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stopdog

Therapists are really not sued all that much over here. Not nearly as often as they should be. The idea of litigious america is more in the minds of non-u.s. people than is really the case. Therapists do what they want and they will blame it on whatever takes the responsibility off of them.

Agree that “litigious America” is a stereotype, but FWIW I am American-British and grew up in the US, and have had therapy both places; more in the US, actually.

Previous therapists in the US never hugged me, so I am partly basing my opinion on those experiences, as well as extensive reading/googling on the subject of ethics codes in psychotherapy and how they came to be.

The more relevant point may actually be licensing. In the US, practicing psychotherapy requires a license. Violating a professional ethics code can lead to revocation of that license (whether or not a lawsuit is also involved). Physical touch taken too far can be an ethics violation.

In the UK, there are psychotherapy associations and ethics codes, but no licensing. You can have your professional affiliation revoked, but still be able to legally practice therapy.

ElectricManatee · Jan 18, 2020 at 09:08 PM

People have done polls on PC before, and there are a surprising (to me) number of therapists who will hug at least some clients, even in the U.S.

Jan 18, 2020 at 09:28 PM

Yesterday i bought rather expensive dog treats i just went to get them and the cats have ripped them open and devoured all of them no wonder they couldnt wait to get outside this morning with no breakfast

Jan 18, 2020 at 09:29 PM

I have never heard of T hugging in my country eitheer. My T has patted me on the back once when i came out of hospital but that was it.

Jan 18, 2020 at 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chihirochild

Ugh I’m dreading having to work in the ICU tomorrow. It just scares the crap out of me.

When i was a phlebotomist i was trained to take arterial blood gaese from the arterial line. I was always worried i would touch the wrong thing on the mintor when i wa silencing the alsrm or forget to turn the alarms back on or leave the iv line turned off or a million other things that could go wrong but i never did so all that aniety was for nothing, well not for nothing it helped focus me in what i was doing. But i get being scared.

stopdog · Jan 18, 2020 at 10:12 PM

I have been hugged by a therapist in the united states. I don't like being hugged by strangers, but I am aware of more therapists who hug clients than don't.
I am a lawyer who sues therapists. I don't sue nearly as many of them as deserve it.
Although not over hugging one way or the other

stopdog · Jan 18, 2020 at 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BlessedCheeseMaker

Yesterday i bought rather expensive dog treats i just went to get them and the cats have ripped them open and devoured all of them no wonder they couldnt wait to get outside this morning with no breakfast

My cats like dog treats as well. I have to crush some up so they can have some. One of them will steal the treat right out from under the dog sometimes. Then the dog stands and cries until I rescue his treat and give it back to him. The dog is 80lb and the cat is about 13lb. I have woosy dogs.

Quietmind 2 · Jan 19, 2020 at 03:42 AM

Hey couch...

I don't know how I am. My partner lost a friend to suicide this week. And my sister corroborated some abuse. T is likely not replying to both my emails, it's been several days.

I tried turning to friends... Didn't give them abuse details or details about the suicide. They got upset, I ended up having to comfort one of them when I'm already feeling terrible. I want my T.

Also, I love my friends, don't get me wrong... And I can get slightly annoyed that "depression" for some of them literally just means a sad day. I did tell one of them to seek professional help if it lasts over two weeks or she has suicidal thinking. She was alarmed that stuff could last that long, and she's never had suicidal thinking.

So a part of me is annoyed.

Polibeth · Jan 19, 2020 at 03:56 AM

So I applied for a leave of absence (LOA) from work - and that is still open but I notified my manager who told me not to worry about my shifts - he'll cover everything.

SO tonight 15 minutes after I was supposed to start I got a call from one of the supervisors asking where I was. I told him and also forwarded him the email from the manager. Supervisor told me that it is in "no way your fault" Manager also apologized.

Yet, me being me still worries.

Lonelyinmyheart · Jan 19, 2020 at 04:13 AM

My current T hugs me and it's always with my consent. I find it very healing. My first t did the same. The difference with current t is that the hugs aren't the focus point and we talk about the need I feel. She only hugs me at the end, never mid session or when I'm distressed as that could take the focus off the therapy itself.

LostOnTheTrail · Jan 19, 2020 at 05:55 AM

*curls up in a ball*

downandlonely · Jan 19, 2020 at 06:00 AM

You ok @LostOnTheTrail ?

LostOnTheTrail · Jan 19, 2020 at 06:09 AM

It's an anniversary week. I have an important meeting at work, that falls on a trigger date.
I'm waiting to hear from a publisher about a poem, but it's not looking hopeful.

Thanks for checking in.

Quietmind 2 · Jan 19, 2020 at 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LostOnTheTrail

It's an anniversary week. I have an important meeting at work, that falls on a trigger date.
I'm waiting to hear from a publisher about a poem, but it's not looking hopeful.

Thanks for checking in.

Hugs if wanted. Anniversaries suck and I hope it is the least awful as possible.

chihirochild · Jan 19, 2020 at 07:29 AM

Okay, will be done with work in 12h. Cross your fingers for me?

LonesomeTonight · Jan 19, 2020 at 08:05 AM

Hugs, Lost...

LonesomeTonight · Jan 19, 2020 at 08:08 AM

Hugs, QuietMind...I hope you hear back from your T. When is your next session? And it's tough when you realize how some friends or family just don't get mental illness at all...

NP_Complete · Jan 19, 2020 at 01:33 PM

Does it bug anyone else when you're watching a cooking show and they have a big bowl of salt and they stick their raw meat juice covered fingers in it? It just seems so unhygienic and I don't even have a problem with germs or anything like that. Maybe they're editing out the part where they wash their hands.

LostOnTheTrail · Jan 19, 2020 at 01:35 PM

Absolutely! I enjoy watching Jamie Oliver cook, but I don't enjoy his 'quick' handwashing.

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chihirochild Magnate Member Since Feb 2017 Location: North America Posts: 2,360 7 4,865 hugs given	Jan 18, 2020 at 08:29 PM #641 Ugh I’m dreading having to work in the ICU tomorrow. It just scares the crap out of me.

ElectricManatee Magnate Member Since May 2017 Location: Earth Posts: 2,515 6 4,704 hugs given	Jan 18, 2020 at 09:08 PM #643 People have done polls on PC before, and there are a surprising (to me) number of therapists who will hug at least some clients, even in the U.S.

Anonymous42961 Guest Posts: n/a	Jan 18, 2020 at 09:28 PM #644 Yesterday i bought rather expensive dog treats i just went to get them and the cats have ripped them open and devoured all of them no wonder they couldnt wait to get outside this morning with no breakfast

Anonymous42961 Guest Posts: n/a	Jan 18, 2020 at 09:29 PM #645 I have never heard of T hugging in my country eitheer. My T has patted me on the back once when i came out of hospital but that was it.

Lonelyinmyheart Poohbah Member Since Jun 2019 Location: Earth Posts: 1,093 4 1,732 hugs given	Jan 19, 2020 at 04:13 AM #651 My current T hugs me and it's always with my consent. I find it very healing. My first t did the same. The difference with current t is that the hugs aren't the focus point and we talk about the need I feel. She only hugs me at the end, never mid session or when I'm distressed as that could take the focus off the therapy itself.

LostOnTheTrail Tweaky Dog Member Since Aug 2011 Location: England Posts: 4,796 12 3,129 hugs given	Jan 19, 2020 at 05:55 AM #652 curls up in a ball __________________ 'Somewhere up above the great divide Where the sky is wide, and the clouds are few A man can see his way clear to the light Just hold on tight, that's all you gotta do...' Steve Earle - Fort Worth Blues 'You have all the grace you need for today, and today is all that matters.' - Steve Austin

downandlonely Legendary Member Since Mar 2018 Location: United States Posts: 10,760 (SuperPoster!) 6 10.6k hugs given	Jan 19, 2020 at 06:00 AM #653 You ok @LostOnTheTrail ?

chihirochild Magnate Member Since Feb 2017 Location: North America Posts: 2,360 7 4,865 hugs given	Jan 19, 2020 at 07:29 AM #656 Okay, will be done with work in 12h. Cross your fingers for me?

LonesomeTonight Always in This Twilight Member Since Feb 2015 Location: US Posts: 20,762 (SuperPoster!) 9 75k hugs given	Jan 19, 2020 at 08:05 AM #657 Hugs, Lost...

LonesomeTonight Always in This Twilight Member Since Feb 2015 Location: US Posts: 20,762 (SuperPoster!) 9 75k hugs given	Jan 19, 2020 at 08:08 AM #658 Hugs, QuietMind...I hope you hear back from your T. When is your next session? And it's tough when you realize how some friends or family just don't get mental illness at all...

NP_Complete Grand Magnate Member Since Feb 2017 Location: the upside down Posts: 3,808 7 6,352 hugs given	Jan 19, 2020 at 01:33 PM #659 Does it bug anyone else when you're watching a cooking show and they have a big bowl of salt and they stick their raw meat juice covered fingers in it? It just seems so unhygienic and I don't even have a problem with germs or anything like that. Maybe they're editing out the part where they wash their hands.