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I am leading a chat about DBT at 10:30 a.m. on Thursdays (now). It isn't on the chat schedule, but I will be there if anyone wants to talk about DBT therapy or skills. If you have any experience with DBT, I would welcome your input, and if you want to learn about it, come on in.

Please note that this is a chat intended for informational purposes only, and is not intended to take the place of any therapeutic intervention. I am hoping to learn a lot too.

That said, I am a counselor intern, and I am running DBT groups IRL. I am learning as I go, as I have mostly read the books from Marsha Linehan and I'm trying to figure it out for myself. I am working on how to get more specific training and network with other, more experienced, DBT therapists. I'm also aware that I need DBT Skills myself, and I see this group as a peer group discussion, where I will be just one of the group and I would appreciate support and feedback too.

I would be happy to have any comments, suggestions, requests, etc. from any of you. Feel free to reply to this thread, PM me, come to the chat, etc. If you want to study more about DBT on your own, http://www.dbtselfhelp.com/ is a terrific source. I have found examples there beyond what is in the skills manual, and variations on diary cards that I like better than the one in the skills manual (if you want to use a diary card, go pick one out and print it). My vision for this chat is something like the self-help groups that the author of dbtselfhelp.com talks about. I wish that there were such a live support group available where I live. I would join it.

Anyway, see 'ya in chat!

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I promised that I would post an explanation of what DBT is. DBT stands for Dialectical Behevioral Therapy, although that doesn't really tell you a lot. Dialectics are pairs of opposites, or extremes, and the object of DBT is to find those extremes, and balance them, finding the middle ground. For example, you might tell yourself "I am completely worthless" and also "I have to be perfect in all areas in order to be okay." Those are both extreme ideas, and if you hold on to both of those extremes, it would be very hard to ever accept yourself for who you are. DBT would attempt to find the wisdom that is in each of your statements and bring them together into a synthesis such as "I am okay just the way that I am, AND I have things that I would like to work on and change about myself."

In DBT Skills Training, there are four modules, and the skills all fit into those areas.

Mindfulness is developing more awareness of yourself, your thoughts, your feelings, and your environment, very similar to grounding skills. Mindfulness is helpful in managing dissociation, thinking errors, and any problems that you might have in connecting with yourself and real life.

Interpersonal Effectiveness is very similar to assertiveness training. It teaches you to monitor your relationships, identify what is important to you, prioritize, and ask for what you need and want in a way that enhances or improves both the way that others feel about you, and your own self-respect.

Emotion Regulation helps you to understand and manage your feelings or emotions appropriately, rather than shutting them off or letting them blow up and get out of control.

Distress Tolerance is about getting through intense and painful emotions without losing control, shutting down, having a melt-down, acting impulsively, etc.

Although DBT was originally developed as a treatment for Borderline Personality Disorder, it has been found to be useful for addictions, impulsive behaviors, depression, anxiety, dissociation, PTSD, and other applications as well. The skills are basic skills that probably most people have not perfected but people who are effective in life are generally able to use at least some of these skills in ways that work for them (although they probably don't name them and analyze which skill they are using and why on a day to day basis). All of us have some skills, and most people have room for improvement in some areas.

DBT is a Cognitive-Behavioral therapy, that also uses insight and borrows from Eastern philosophy and spirituality. Basically, it is CBT with a kick.

Feel free to jump on in if you have anything to say, or any questions, here, and/or join us next Thursday.
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Thanks! My T is acutally working on these skills with me. She recently gave me a set of emotional regulation worksheets, has talked to me about wisemind, which I still have trouble understanding. I was hoping that I'd gt a chance to join that chat and learn a little more about DBT skills, more specfically wisemind...so I can actually start making use of that skill, but I am at work Thursday mornings. But thanks for the link

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We can discuss DBT here in this thread too, if you want to. At some point, you never know, schedules might change and maybe it will work out for you to attend the chat. Feel free to share any insights you have, or ask questions. If I find a better time for the chat, I'll post it here. I could end up with another job that might mean working Thursday mornings too, for all that I know.
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I'm not sure if I will end up following a regular outline for this chat, or just discussing what comes up. We will see. One thing I notice with DBT is that almost anything that may be happening can usually be viewed in terms of any aspect of DBT, including whichever skill you might be focusing on right now.

Today, we talked about Interpersonal Effectiveness, which is a lot like Assertiveness Training, except with more emphasis on developing skills for accepting that it is your right and your responsibility to ask for what you want and need, or say no when it is appropriate, then learning how to do that in a way that helps you to meet your objectives, and enhances your relationship, and maintains or builds your self-respect.

We talked about some of the myths that keep us from being as effective as we could be. You can read more about those myths, such as "I can't stand it if someone gets upset at me" here:

http://www.dbtselfhelp.com/html/ie_handout_4.html

Feel free to look ahead to the next page on that site for more help countering the myths, or at anything else that interests you.

If you have questions, or want to discuss anything you find, you are welcome to bring it up on next week's chat, post it here, and/or PM me.

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What a great idea!
can't find a group IRL and brought it up to my Pdoc today and she said that in our area it is nearly impossible to keep a group running. and besides, there is the insurance factor for many ppl.
i learned many of the skills before, and am trying to get back to them, but
having trouble on my own.

reading a book written by a buddhist about anger release. so cool. some great "mindful breathing" exercises. will share if anyone wants.
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