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From the outside looking in, my husband appears to be as close to perfect as you can get - at least in public. He takes great pride in developing this facade. I can’t decide if he simply needs validation or if he needs to sell this image to camouflage who he REALLY is.
Now, let me say, my husband has never been verbally or physically abusive; yet his ambivalence can be just as frustrating and hurtful. He has often said, “the one who brings up an issue is the one who has the problem.” He has major challenges communicating, so of course, I’m always the one who brings up ANY issue in our marriage. In short, I’m the one with the problem. To be fair, henever developed coping skills, thanks to his parents, so any sign of confrontation, challenge or opposition, he gets extremely sensitive and defensive. He has even told me that I make him feel like he is a bad person. It doesn’t matter what he said or does, he only sees your reaction. His parents were enablers, so nothing was ever his fault. They always changed the narrative in his favor, so he never had the opportunity to feel anger, sadness, remorse etc... They just wanted him to feel HAPPY all the time, which in my opinion, is totally delusional. He was never punished for bad grades, inappropriate language or any typical moronic teenage behavior. His parents always found an excuse to let him off the hook. Now, we are experiencing some challenges in our marriage and of course everything is my fault. I have asked him to change certain behaviors, and as a result, he has startred to withhold affection. He will tell he loves me, but barely touches me. He’ll cook a romantic dinner for us, but won’t come to bed etc... Again, he gives the impression like everything is okay, but clearly it’s not. So, we went out last night. While others were watching, he was very attentive. When it was just us, he was civil yet cold. I’m so confused. Not by want I see, but how I should manage his emotional vacillation. We have gone to counseling; he is alwYs cooperative about that, but I still keep wandering, “Am I a pawn in a game he’s playing? Any feedback would be helpful. |
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I'm so sorry you're struggling, seriouslyfunny I agree he has some issues he needs to work on. How is couple counselling going? Are you seeing any improvements in his behavior? To be honest, I think individual therapy would be more appropriate for him, since he's clearly the one that needs to work on himself the most. Would he be willing to do that? I'd suggest to seriously talk to him about this and see how it goes. Hopefully he'll understand and accept to go to therapy. Make him understand that this is important. If he refuses to listen or to acknowledge that there's a problem, I think you seriously need to reconsider your relationship with that man. I'm so sorry, I know it's hard when this happens. Communication is an important part in every relationship, romantic or not, so if that doesn't happen I'm not sure how this is going to last. I hope things will get better soon. Is there anything we can do to help you? Please let us know. I hope you'll feel better soon. Feel free to PM me anytime. Let me know if I can do something to help you. Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this
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I'm sorry this is tough. I'm never been married, so I can't really advise you. I hope things get better.
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The one who bring up the issue is the one who has a problem? Wow. What a way to turn things back on the other person. He really is in avoidance mode. Chances are if he goes to therapy on his own he is going to paint a rosy picture of himself and you will be made to be the villan.
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I would suggest counseling; if he won't go with you, then go for yourself.
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Hello Seriously Funny,
I am sorry you are experiencing marital problems. That sounds stressful and confusing for you When you try to communicate with him about your concerns, are you coming from a calm and non-judgmental place or do you tend to say something when you are feeling charged and heated? For example, a person will likely respond differently to: "It drives me crazy when you ________" or "Why do you always _____?!I am so sick of it!" versus "Hey love, I'd like us to check-in with each other. When's a good time for you?" Then after you pick a time you sit next to him (not opposite) and start with several things you love about him (do you love him? That was an assumption I made since you are married) and then calmly follow with "When _______ happens in our relationship, I feel ________ so I would like us to work together in order to improve things. Nobody is perfect, right? I know I'm not! And I'd really like to hear things from your perspective too, love. I am sure there are things that I could be working on to improve for you too." Have you brought up your views on his childhood and parents? I would strongly discourage you from doing that. Endeavoring to psychoanalyze one's partner is not the path to peace. And negative comments about our parents or upbringing generally don't go over well...if my partner commented negatively on my family I would not be too happy. I'm not assuming you did that but since you mentioned I thought it may be helpful to point that out. His upbringing is irrelevant to you, in essence, because only a trained professional can parse that out and only if your hub provides his consent for said professional to go there. Trying to do that yourself would likely add more tension and strain to the marriage. If that makes sense. I think in your post you mentioned that he does go to therapy with you or did I misunderstand that? How is therapy going? What does the therapist suggest? I think it's a good sign that he participates in that...that does not sound like game-playing to me. I'm not really sure why you are assuming that he's playing some sort of machiavellian game with you? Did I miss a piece? If he makes a lovely dinner for you but doesn't want to come to bed...perhaps there's a sexual or intimacy problem for him there? I mean I don't know. I'm just trying to help you troubleshoot. Any relationship takes teamwork of course. You both need to contribute to the team effort. Stonewalling, if that's what he's doing, is actually a known predictor of serious marital breakdown. Just so you know Seriously Funny, I always look at both sides in relationship troubles because there are always two people at the table. Though I am not negating or diminishing your frustration and concerns Maybe you could fill in more info? How long has this been going on? How long have you been married? I assume things were good and loving at some point...did things slowly decline over time? What are the specific issues you are trying to resolve? What are the things you need to change on your side? I wish you peace. Feel free to add more info or reply if you like Last edited by Anonymous57363; Feb 15, 2019 at 10:40 AM.. |
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Recently, he did share with me that he has a perfectionist complex, which was exaserbated by his mother. She was a stay at home mom and everything had to be a certain way in order for her to feel purposeful. It would be remiss not to add that his father is an extremely intelligent man and to me, seeks every opportunity to minimize his mother’s intelligence or contributions, making her vigorously competitive, defensive and outspoken. If he did something less than perfect, she wouldn’t scold him but she would discourage him from doing it again so he wouldn’t be disappointed. He told me he feels inadequate and finds comfort in normalcy. He does not like change. I empathize, but I do not enable. I believe if you have done something wrong to hurt your partner you should take accountability and not try to finagle your way out of the situation. I believe this to be his method of operation. It’s hard for him to accept that he has done anything wrong because his parents modeled this philosophy. He never got punished for anything as a child and to me did not learn consequence or have appropriate emotional cues because everything was rote. You mentioned Machiavellian games. Let me give you an example of what I mean. Despite our communication problems, we do connect intimately. However, he recently told me he was not in the space for that type of interaction, due to our precarious state, and I appreciated his honesty. The next day, he was romantically playful,and I did not engage. I told him until we figure out our trajectory, we should refrain from exchanges of that sort. He said okay, but continued to cross the boundary. I still have not obliged. I think this is passive aggressive behavior. I think he just wanted to hurt me by saying he wasn’t interested. Then, when I didn’t get upset or react negatively, he started playing games to lure me. When I didn’t take the bait, he called me cold. To his credit, he is trying to be more expressive. He is trying to identify his emotions and communicate them. However, in holding him accountable and not engaging, I feel like my marriage has evolved into some sort of chess game. It’s so confusing at times. After my last post, I did talk to him about separating, but he said we could make it work with some patience, prayer and understanding. Certainly, this is everything I wanted to hear; unfortunately, I doubt his sincerity. |
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Sorry you are struggling Seriously Funny. I wish you peace.
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