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Default Dec 11, 2020 at 10:11 AM
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To say I'm surprised is an understatement!

Mother made decision herself to not risking going. Her considered view was "I've got this far, not going to risk it". The most sensible thing she's done in years. Brother said he understood. No comment from sister-in-law. My aunt (mother's sister) very miffed not going to her because she's been mixing with lots of other people, purely because she feels sorry for recently widowed friend.

Digressed slightly there. As mother said "we can't just walk out if someone appears who we didn't know was invited".

Arranging present delivery time next week, so I can at least see my niece and mother can see her granddaughter (socially distancing of course!)
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Well, this topic has reared its head again!

Via Mother, have now received invite to Christmas lunch at brother and sis-in-law's house. Apparently sis-in-law said "this isn't an apology or reconciliation, but just an invite for lunch".

So, with lockdowns/social distancing/bubbles etc, she now thinks it's a decent thing to do to invite an 85 year old with health problems and me to their house. The UK government aren't publishing details of what latest restrictions will mean for each area until Thursday.

Main issue in this thread is there's never been an apology from sis-in-law and there will never be one whilst she adopts this arrogant attitude. Even thinking about my Mother and that's where the emotional blackmail will be, I'm finding it difficult to contemplate sitting at a table with someone who thinks she's done no wrong and to openly say she's not apologising. Much as I'd like to see my niece, it's not sitting well with me. How do I know that if I say something sis-in-law doesn't like that she won't lash out at me again
Have you thought about reporting your sister in law for violations of the covid 19 anonymously? Just so she get a visit she not going to like.
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Default Dec 30, 2020 at 06:34 AM
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Mother made sensible decision and decided not to go.

We delivered presents Sunday before Christmas. Stood outside their house talking to my brother and niece. Oh, wait a minute, someone was missing. Guess who! If she was doing that to snub me well sorry to say it was expected. Only person she made look silly was herself. Mother hasn't mentioned it, but she will at some stage.

Problem is can't prove any violations. There was going to be one on 26th December, when older niece had invited loads of people to her house. She subsequently cancelled; my aunt was apparently instrumental in that. Sis-in-law's mother spent Christmas Day with her daughter, my brother and younger niece so another good reason why we turned down the invite. This is how the virus is spread. It's all very well restricting contact within families, but you just don't know who else they've been in contact with, like my aunt visiting her widowed friend and getting a neighbour to take her there!

Back to topic. Sis-in-law sent me a cursory text saying thank you for presents. Was just writing one to my brother so sent that and acknowledged the arrival of hers.
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Mother made sensible decision and decided not to go.

We delivered presents Sunday before Christmas. Stood outside their house talking to my brother and niece. Oh, wait a minute, someone was missing. Guess who! If she was doing that to snub me well sorry to say it was expected. Only person she made look silly was herself. Mother hasn't mentioned it, but she will at some stage.

Problem is can't prove any violations. There was going to be one on 26th December, when older niece had invited loads of people to her house. She subsequently cancelled; my aunt was apparently instrumental in that. Sis-in-law's mother spent Christmas Day with her daughter, my brother and younger niece so another good reason why we turned down the invite. This is how the virus is spread. It's all very well restricting contact within families, but you just don't know who else they've been in contact with, like my aunt visiting her widowed friend and getting a neighbour to take her there!

Back to topic. Sis-in-law sent me a cursory text saying thank you for presents. Was just writing one to my brother so sent that and acknowledged the arrival of hers.
Get someone who can watch what is going on and have them report anonymous to the police. Anyone can call social service and make a report.
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Didn't think I'd be adding to this sorry tale. Maybe should have started a separate post regarding my mother, but the new problems relate to this topic. Perhaps I will, as there are other issues emanating from this.

Twice over the past week, my mother has accused me of having no compassion for her because I won't resolve the "family rift". Twice I have reminded her that I did not do the lashing out, so I have nothing to apologise for. When I ask if she's had the same conversation with my brother, she says yes. It's awful I know, but I just don't believe her.

Today has ended as Saturday did because she cannot see any wrong. She is trying to manipulate me into apologising for something I didn't do because it's the easy way out. Sister-in-law is the type of person who is manipulative, full of bull***t and thinks she's convinced everyone how good she is. As I've reminded my mother today, if I apologised it sends out the wrong message and it's a great pity but don't think it's the last time sister-on-law will behave in this way.
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You have right to have boundaries.
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That is very sound advice. Strange that the very person who set boundaries in my younger life is totally ignoring them now.

It's Easter weekend here in the UK and we're supposed to be having lunch together on Sunday after my brother has visited Mother. I know how it will be. He'll speak to me, having pandered to her tears before I arrive. Everything will be fine because he's visited, said things she wants to hear but has no intention of acting on. Yet, days or even weeks later, she'll be frustrated again because the jobs aren't getting done. Then we're back to square one....
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Well, that's the nature of their relationship and there is nothing you can change about that. That is THEIR responsiblity, not yours.
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OpenEyes, spot on again, thanks!

Yes I realise that. He's always been her favourite and as I've got older it's become more obvious. At 65, I know nothing will change but I'm not going to demolish my boundaries just to satisfy my mother's desire for "the easy way out". When I challenge her about the suggestion of me apologising, she avoids answering, then dredges up unrelated things that have happened to her in the past.

I've also had to listen to her comments about my sister-in-law wearing the trousers. My brother has allowed this to happen so now lives with the consequences. I know my mother can't interfere in their relationship but it's another reason why she takes it out on me. She's admitted being a coward....
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The holidays are about a month away. What would you like to see happen? Would you like for the whole family to spend the day together in peace, love, and harmony? (Is that possible?). What would it take for that to happen? Do you want to have your mom celebrate with your brother and you go somewhere else?
That is great advice.
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Since the start of the year, I've not been criticised by my mother for anything, although she still can't tell my aunt properly to stop bossing her around. Admitted she's a coward.

Last Sunday, my mother, aunt (her sister) and SIL's mother all went to lunch at my brother and SIL's house. Apparently, they had a wonderful time although SIL still had attitude. My mother challenged the unacceptable comments she made. Just before leaving, she offered my mother a piece of homemade cake to take home, asking if I would like one too. The only reason I didn't eat it yesterday was it didn't look very appetising as jam and cream had made sponge soggy. Don't know what my mother will tell her, probably not the truth.

One observation I made to my mother was SIL sending me a gift of cake instead of apologising for her actions towards me. Mother's answer was who knows! If this is SIL's attempts at a reconciliation then she'll have to try harder.
As I've said before, not holding my breath....
I’m sorry that you were treated this way. You didn’t deserve to be treated this way.
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This subject has come to the surface again, as it's approaching my mother's birthday. She doesn't know what to do about the "rift" as she calls it. Asked me what I intended to do about that day. Also wanted to moan because my aunt (her sister) had told her she was visiting that day too.

My answer was firstly it's your birthday, you decide what you want to do. Everything she suggested can't be done because of lockdown. Subject then returned to the rift. Again, it was how depressed she is and can't see a way forward with this situation. I asked what I think is an important question "have you discussed the situation with my brother?" Unsurprisingly, the answer was "No". My response "why not, there's two sides to this and I won't be blamed for someone else's unacceptable behaviour". Conversation ceased as there was no point in continuing. When I left her house later, said let me know what you want to do on your birthday. Have no intention of starting an argument on her birthday.

Probably mentioned this before, but can't understand why she won't have same conversation with my brother. Think she's scared that she'll be banned from seeing her only grandchild. She commented recently that I seem to have something on both of them that I won't share with her. Yes I do, but think it would affect her health. Or, she'll say she doesn't believe me.
It possible. Spouses don’t put boundaries with their significant others. Especially when that family members didn’t start anything.
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Default Jul 09, 2021 at 03:54 AM
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Have updated topic about degenerating relationship with my mother but overlooked this one!

Was at family bbq nearly two weeks ago. Sister in law was "holding forth" when we (mother and I) arrived. When she realised she wasn't getting the attention, she went quiet. Not surprisingly, sister in law made no effort to speak to me, instead sitting other side of garden. It's amazing how much you can observe when wearing sunglasses!

Probably better to guide you towards "Degenerating relationship with my mother" instead of repeating everything here. The situation has got worse and of course, it's all my fault.
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