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Old 04-29-2009, 03:14 PM #1
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If suicidal posts are prohibited, why are they permitted to remain? i noticed in the depression forum a "gentle reminder" that suicidal posts aren't permitted yet there is one. It's very disturbing. i don't like the powerlessness it invokes nor the resulting anxiety. i want this person to get help and feel supported but it's not a position any of us should be put in. Thank you.
 

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Hi Meso. This just my thinking, but I do think it's determined by the way it's phrased?

There are many suicidal members here at any one time. To post anything to denote active ideation and possible attempts is not allowed, as it does trigger others and we can't do anything directly for the member in crisis. They need to call their therapist or emergency workers or go to the ER.

However, feeling depressed enough to feel like dying, and posting for support to get through the lousy feelings is another matter. That's what PC is all about: support when you most need it.

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Yes, i do get that. i suppose the post i'm referencing without naming names is a bit vague and, again, i want people to get the support they need. It's just that, in this case, it's not "i feel this way", it uses words that sound more final. Anyway, i appreciate the input, thanks muchly.
 
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Just for future reference:

If you EVER see a post that you think may be against guidelines, or you find offensive or is a member in clear crisis - PLEASE click the "report post" button found on all posts. That way all of the members of the Community Team are informed and can act. Otherwise, please PM an online moderator or administrator with your concerns and a direct link to the post in question.

If there aren't any of the Community Team online, feel free to PM me or whomever you're most comfortable with on the team and we'll deal with it as soon as we can.

Thank you for caring about another person's well-being.

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Thanks very much. It didn't occur to me to use the report post option. i should have done that so that the person in question could perhaps get quicker support. Man, i hope i didn't mess up in that regard. i think i dissociated and froze a bit...i know i spaced out quite a bit trying to figure out what to say, do, think, feel. i guess i'm doing my best here just as everyone else here. Thanks again!
 
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MeSo, I love your tagline. I have lived a lie for so many years. You are so brave! You inspire me to do better. Thanks! Susan
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I have a question about Psychcentral policy and rather than start a new thread I thought it might fit well with the discussion already in progress.

I don't really understand why messages containing suicidal thoughts or suicidal actions are not allowed but messages about cutting and self mutilation is okay.

Obviously if somebody is thinking seriously about suicide it can upset other people but if I am hurting so badly that I am considering suicide then maybe sharing my thoughts could help me get help before it is too late.

For the record I am not suicidal today but I have been in the past and made one attempt twenty years ago. I would like to think that if I were suicidal again that I could share my desperation but that is not allowed here.

I just don't understand why we have a forum dedicated to discussing self harm but discussing the ultimate self harm, suicide, is banned.
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I think the issue in question is triggering.
Sometimes when people read about suicide it might trigger thoughts of their own and unfortunately action on said thoughts.
While I understand talking something out sometimes helps people, I think the intent here is for those who are really in a bad way they need to be encouraged to find local tangible support to help prevent any actions rather than just typing away and getting themselves more emotionally "bound up".
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I have a question about Psychcentral policy and rather than start a new thread I thought it might fit well with the discussion already in progress.

I don't really understand why messages containing suicidal thoughts or suicidal actions are not allowed but messages about cutting and self mutilation is okay.

Obviously if somebody is thinking seriously about suicide it can upset other people but if I am hurting so badly that I am considering suicide then maybe sharing my thoughts could help me get help before it is too late.

For the record I am not suicidal today but I have been in the past and made one attempt twenty years ago. I would like to think that if I were suicidal again that I could share my desperation but that is not allowed here.

I just don't understand why we have a forum dedicated to discussing self harm but discussing the ultimate self harm, suicide, is banned.
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Can you not see how distressing it would be if members were allowed to do suicide posts and then went ahead and did it and died? We are not in a position to help someone in that sort of distress. It's not really possible to stop someone from committing suicide on the internet. Someone who is suicidal needs (irl) immediate care and attention. Psych Central is a wonderful support site but it is not a hospital.
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I have a question about Psychcentral policy and rather than start a new thread I thought it might fit well with the discussion already in progress.

I don't really understand why messages containing suicidal thoughts or suicidal actions are not allowed but messages about cutting and self mutilation is okay.

Obviously if somebody is thinking seriously about suicide it can upset other people but if I am hurting so badly that I am considering suicide then maybe sharing my thoughts could help me get help before it is too late.

For the record I am not suicidal today but I have been in the past and made one attempt twenty years ago. I would like to think that if I were suicidal again that I could share my desperation but that is not allowed here.

I just don't understand why we have a forum dedicated to discussing self harm but discussing the ultimate self harm, suicide, is banned.
Hey Yoda,

I'll try to explain it for you and hopefully my words will make sense.

Cutting and self mutilation are far from the ultimate of taking ones' own life. There is a big difference there.

We do have members here that are feeling suicidal at any given time. If they post that they are feeling that way and what emotions they are going through at the time and looking for support, that is one thing. For a member to post that I'm going to do it xxx and this is how I will do it.....that is against our guidelines.

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A threat would be along the lines of "I'm done, tonight's the night" or "Goodbye cruel world, I won't be back PC".

If you are discussing that you are wondering why you should continue....that leaves the door open for conversation and support. See the difference?

I hope what I have said has helped.....feel free to pm if you have further questions ok?


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