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I've been thinking a lot about personality and how it influences our reactions to our difficult experiences (or 'symptoms', if you prefer), both internal and external, and how that can influence how we are diagnosed and treated etc.

To clarify, I am NOT referring to diagnosed personality disorders, although those sorts of traits will definitely influence these things.

For example, my reserved nature and strong ability to regulate my emotions meant that I was labelled as an attention seeker. Pdocs found it hard to believe what I said that I experienced with how they perceived me. However, whilst that misunderstanding caused some quite distressing experiences, that also allows me to be more functional than I might otherwise be since medication doesn't help me. So pros and cons.

Whilst I tend not to like being put in boxes, and MBTI is another form of box organisation, has anyone done this and relates to their description? Here is an example test that's pretty quick if anyone is interested, although the description of type afterwards isn't that good:

https://personalityhacker.com/genius-personality-test/

Disclaimer: I have no idea why it's calling itself a Genius Test, because it's MBTI. Also, online tests aren't always that accurate, but this one did agree with many other tests, which have all given me the same type result, but YMMV and it would be best to do an official one/multiple online tests.

Does anyone have any thoughts on how their personality has influenced their reactions to experiences/symptoms?

Does anyone think that this has influenced how they have been diagnosed by pdocs, or treated by them?

Do you think it has played a role in your acceptance, or not, of whatever diagnosis you've been given. For example, now they say I have sz, but I have never met anyone with that diagnosis who reacts the same way that I do. When I was in rehab, they said that they would find someone like me to 'prove' that I do have sz but, in 6 months there, they couldn't.

I'm just interested in hearing people's thoughts related to their personality traits and their mental health, if anyone wants to have a discussion about it.

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This is a better description site for the MBTI types, if anyone is interested:

https://www.16personalities.com/personality-types

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I took the test just before i had my psychosis and got a infj (Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging). I googled who might else have been and one weird prediction was that my favorite author was probably an infj. Goethe, he's been dead since the 1830's though. So i'm not certain how they came up with that answer but I found that interesting. It makes sense that I'd connect with an author who had the same personality if you think about it. It's apparently the rarest personality type in the Meyers Briggs test. I reflected if it had anything to do with my break down...

I don't think I would have such a rare one these days. The infj is supposedly the rarest one but since my emotions have declined, "feeling" in the infj has all but vanished. I do find that intuition is an important factor and intuition is yoked to wisdom naturally, Plato wrote. Me being a philosopher, i have that "dawning" moment quite a bit when i connect ideas, and beg the question. It's that Eureka moment people get. The reason why i thought my infj type might have something to do with my psychosis is because the intuition was what is corrupted in a delusion.

My introversion had me repress and hide my psychosis from everyone until it exploded on the scene because it was either sui or let it out and tell people to stop by going to the police. Cause a major ruckus, but it was probably the best way to go about it other than yelling at people and accusing them. However, the authorities took me seriously, because, as a philosopher, i can write a persuasive (and truthful) argument. I had a lot of dots to report, i just connected them very... abstractly because i was delusional asf. It's hypocritical if you ask me when you get a bunch of ethics professors together and decide to shun you for something you have no rational control over. Kant makes an argument that says that if you're not in the intelligible realm then morals can't apply to you. It's only an argument by Kant though, He's only the culmination of the Enlightenment. :P
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I'm a INTJ female diagnosed with ASD. I know this has contributed to my awful experiences with psychiatry during my teen years and later on with psychotic illness.

I'm not the most expressive person. I think this trait has given doctors the impression that I have no feelings whatsoever or that I am arrogant and self-centered. I think this contributed to the misdiagnosis, along with the anger I had from being bullied for years and my difficulties navigating friendships. Also
my obsession with diagnoses really irritated some doctors, which they misinterpreted as me being combative and resistant. I was once referred to as a pain in the ***. I'm certain they also used this to justify their clinical impressions and disrespect towards me.

My anxious disposition and tendency to fret over a single topic for years can produce a lot of stress, sleep deprivation and emotional exhaustion, which can cause psychotic symptoms to surface. Apparently ASD makes me susceptible to psychotic illness.

I found the ASD diagnosis healed a lot of my emotional wounds, because it accurately described my experiences and psychiatric history. Meeting others like me has also helped tremendously.


I like my INTJ traits. It is who I am. Embracing myself has helped my mental health a lot as well.

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I'm a negative person so when I'm faced with symptoms it's self destructive., I'm INFP btw
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Iíve done two of these tests now including the one youíve posted, and got INFJ both times which is interesting.
I think because I tend to think quiet abstractly and am very absorbed in my inner world, it has made the psychosis more able to take hold. My cpn and psychologist have both commented on how I donít fight the thoughts, I just accept them as reality. This makes it harder to determine what is real and what is not I think.
Iím also very introverted and quiet. When unwell I tend to just turn in on myself internally and become even more quiet. In my last hospital admission things actually became a bit more outward and I expressed myself more and tried to show people what was happening. I think this might be why the psychiatrist called me Ďdisturbedí. In previous admissions the other patients have told me they thought I had depression, cos I didnít let anything out. But Iíve been told I need to let people know how Iím feeling, and last time i think it helped a bit to let it out. Not that it was a massively conscious decision, but I think part of me recognised that holding it in makes it worse.
I have been told that by some people that itís obvious when Iím unwell, but I think thatís people that know me or are trained to see it. I think this has made it easier for Ďprofessionalsí like psychiatrists to see that Iím struggling, cos I canít completely hide it, though I try to. Iíve been told my face looks like a Ďmaskí and my behaviour completely changes.
I think my personality has made it harder to accept the diagnoses Iíve been given, because like you willow, Iíve never met anyone with sz whoís like me. Certainly not in hospital anyway. I met someone as a member of staff who I thought wow, Iím a bit like that, which was weird. It doesnít help that part of my personality, when Iím feeling vulnerable I compare myself to others to try and understand what Iím struggling with too. So when no one seems to behave like you, itís difficult.
Interesting question, thanks for posting
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I used to be intj before the psychosis....very clearly....however since the psychosis it seems to jump around a bit, Iím not sure if this is because of the validity of the online tests or if Iíve changed that much?
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I got Isfj this time.....Iíll always be introverted for sure it the middle two and even the third jump around now. This is what I got...defender....Very dedicated and warm protectors, always ready to defend their loved ones. I honestly think that thinking was ruining me before so I needed a new approach to keep me outside of my head despite the introversion. Same thing with intuition...I was too much in my head, sensing keeps me grounded.
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I know I didnít exactly answer the question in terms of Myers Briggs but honestly I think having an optimistic approach and facing the illness directly helped me immensely more than any other personality trait. I could have never done it without the meds but optimism was the winner. I wonder if the big five personality traits might play more into this?
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Wow! These responses are great! They've given me a lot to think about. I wasn't sure whether anyone would be interested in this topic...so thank you everyone!

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I took the test just before i had my psychosis and got a infj (Introverted iNtuitive Feeling Judging)...It's apparently the rarest personality type in the Meyers Briggs test.
I test as INFJ too. I've probably done 10-15 tests over the last 15 years and always typed as this. It supposedly is the rarest type, but it's also quite common to mis-type as INFJ using online tests, and there's also maybe a bias factor with all of the types whereby people answer the questions they way that they want to be, rather than the way that they actually are. Also, apparently, people like to say they have it because it is the rarest type. (To clarify, I'm not saying that this is the case for you at all; just something I've been considering in my own case.)

They say that reading the cognitive functions for the type you test as is the best way to be sure that it's accurate. This website might be helpful for that: https://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-pri...ive-functions/

I found that the most helpful because sometimes the type descriptions are written in a way, kinda like astrology predictions, where you can twist it to fit lots of different people. I don't pretend to be an expert in MBTI at all, but I've found it interesting to read about, and I do relate to 'my' type, and its cognitive functions.

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I googled who might else have been and one weird prediction was that my favorite author was probably an infj. Goethe, he's been dead since the 1830's though. So i'm not certain how they came up with that answer but I found that interesting. It makes sense that I'd connect witapparently the rarest personality type in the Meyers Briggs test.
Yes, I'm always dubious when they type and diagnose dead people because how can they really know for sure?!

In terms of connections, IRL I've never met an INFJ, or even many iNtuitives. I had one friend who was ENTP, my only N friend IRL, and we got on soooo well.
She was Ne to my Ni, and Si to my Se, and we were both had Fe and Ti. We got on so well, I think, because we had lots of similarities, but also complemented with some opposing functions, so we allowed each other to see things that we wouldn't see on our own. Unfortunately, she moved away but, even all of these years later, I still really miss our conversations and our connection. I've never had anything close to that before or since.

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I don't think I would have such a rare one these days. The infj is supposedly the rarest one but since my emotions have declined, "feeling" in the infj has all but vanished.
Have you done any tests recently? Or, I'd recommend looking at the cognitive functions link above. It is possible for these things to change over time, and especially when you add things like MI to the mix. For example, I have always been an introvert, but I am waaaaay more introverted these days because of all of the other things going on now e.g. socialising is a lot more tiring because of my auditory issues trying to understand speech etc etc.

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I do find that intuition is an important factor and intuition is yoked to wisdom naturally, Plato wrote. Me being a philosopher, i have that "dawning" moment quite a bit when i connect ideas, and beg the question. It's that Eureka moment people get. The reason why i thought my infj type might have something to do with my psychosis is because the intuition was what is corrupted in a delusion.
This is one thing that I struggle with sometimes because my intuition tells me all of these things which are spot on that nobody else can understand how I got there. But then it also tells me all of these things that people call 'delusions'. I've often wondered if Ns would have a different experience with psychosis than Ss who might, theoretically, be more distrustful of those types of insights??

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My introversion had me repress and hide my psychosis from everyone until it exploded on the scene because it was either sui or let it out and tell people to stop by going to the police. Cause a major ruckus, but it was probably the best way to go about it other than yelling at people and accusing them. However, the authorities took me seriously, because, as a philosopher, i can write a persuasive (and truthful) argument. I had a lot of dots to report, i just connected them very... abstractly because i was delusional asf. It's hypocritical if you ask me when you get a bunch of ethics professors together and decide to shun you for something you have no rational control over. Kant makes an argument that says that if you're not in the intelligible realm then morals can't apply to you. It's only an argument by Kant though, He's only the culmination of the Enlightenment. :P
I'm really sorry that happened to you DT It's really unfair of them

My introversion really helps me hide things too. I've said, so many times, that pdocs could talk to me about a hundred different things and they wouldn't see me as different from any of their other medical students! I think it's a good thing for me really, both in terms of being able to behave appropriately with strangers, and I really enjoy having such a rich inner life. I like that I think deeply about things, even if sometimes I can overthink things and get sucked into 'thought spirals', as I call them. I like being reflective, and I really love that I am able to see multiple perspectives and am able to put myself in other people's shoes. It does get lonely, seeing the world so differently from everyone around me, but I'm not sure I'd change the way i see the world, even if I could.

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