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Default Am I that incompetent for computer science?

This will probably be a long rant.
I just needed to put it all out there before I start crying.
I'm a junior studying computer science at a local university.
The school is no way one of the top schools for cs.
But yet I'm still struggling really bad. I'm only taking 3 classes
because they are all 4 credits each. Two classes I'm retaking because
I received a D grade in them and they don't allow D grades in major courses
linear algebra and data structures and algorithm analysis. I'm also taking a genetics course. I have missed some time in my data structures class due to illness. I'm registered with DSS at my school and for the most part they are pretty accommodating do have anxiety, ocd, depression and was recently diagnosed with ADHD. I'm being treated for all previous conditions.
However this semester, the data structures prof is not really helpful.
He stated multiple times that he will not repeat what hes done in class already and that I should just read the power points he posts. Even when I go to office hours he is extremely condescending to the point where he said
"I know you have your issue, but you need a lot of work to be successful in this class. Mentally I can't take anymore of his condescending during office hours so I've recently contacted possible tutors. But i'm really worried because my dad said that maybe computer science just is not for me because I cant seem to understand this material even the second time around. I cannot change my major because I'm too far along in it. Am I too incompetent for computer science? Or is it just my anxiety talking and I should stop worrying and just continue to study and do my best? Any and all advice is accepted, because I'm at my wits end at this point.
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It sounds like the material does not come easily to you. Whether this is due to your illnesses or it just isn't your thing, I really am not sure. That would have to be something for you and your health care team to figure out. Is this your passion and what you want to do for the rest of your life?

That being said, have you looked into different programs that interest you just in case this is not your path? Perhaps some of the credits you have would transfer into this new program.
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It's never too late to change your major. Have you done a career assessment? I'm not talking about an interest assessment as that only shows what you are interested in and is biased towards that which is familiar. Career assessments test your aptitude and finds careers that match.
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I am sorry. I donít want to be harsh but honestly I donít think itís career path for you. It doesnít mean you are incompetent. I think I am a competent person but Iíd fail computer science because itís not my thing. Itís never too late to change your major. You might lose some credits but itís not the end of the world. Donít be harsh on yourself
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I took the data structures class three times before i passed it, true story. By the end of my computer career, somebody actually disparaged me by saying i was a natural at computers, that somehow what i did didnt count because it was so easy for me.

Really, once you figure out the secret behind data structures - that you are looking at the address OF the address?! - something like that, or the address of a list of addresses, not the actual data - and read some of the old James Martin books, and how to write a perfectly structured program, and IT SHOULD LOOK BEAUTIFUL - then you will be on your way. Also read malcolm goodwins book on Masters - it will take you 10,000 hours to become a master at your work. Which is more or less the olden times journeymans apprenticeship.
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What do your treatment team think would be best for you at this point in your life? My friend's son was unable to do anything except play computer games for a year after his parents' divorce, and his counsellor suggested that he found a physical recreational activity that he liked. Amazingly enough - he had depression and ADHD - after some experiment he found that he passionately adored rock climbing - go figure! Even though he had to travel right across the city to a climbing wall, he found that he was fantastically enthusiastic about this activity... and then he made friends and his confidence and love of life came back.

Perhaps instead of forcing yourself to do something that has no meaning for you, you need to dedicate a year with your treatment team finding some activity which you can do and which you enjoy.

I studied computing when I was very depressed. I didn't pass the exam, but it was for work so mainly to get a feel for the breadth of the subject. I passed my university degree much later than most people - I was 30 - and despite being traumatised I worked hard and enjoyed the studying.

Unaluna knows more about computer science than I do - but seems to me that unless you enjoy some parts of the course then you and your dad need to admit that it's not for you at this moment in time. That acknowledgement in itself will be your challenge!


Just my opinion. Usually I tell people to push through rather than give up, but I think that right now you might need the faith to be honest with your dad and yourself. See whether you feel that challenging this idea of "educational/ career success" would be a better way forward???

That brings me to another question: what do you think is necessary for you to do at this stage in your life??? For me it was necessary to support myself financially and I had no choice about that. If you have a choice, then what do you honestly feel is necessary for you - this day, this month, this year???

Another question: will you dad still love you if you leave university? Can you both find enough love to take a leap of trust together? You will need someone wholeheartedly behind you.
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It sounds like the material does not come easily to you. Whether this is due to your illnesses or it just isn't your thing, I really am not sure. That would have to be something for you and your health care team to figure out. Is this your passion and what you want to do for the rest of your life?

That being said, have you looked into different programs that interest you just in case this is not your path? Perhaps some of the credits you have would transfer into this new program.

Computer science is my passion. I enjoy the problem solving aspect. I enjoy the course even when struggling with it. My doctor has been reassuring all my academic career, he wants me to continue on with my plan getting a tutor, etc
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It's never too late to change your major. Have you done a career assessment? I'm not talking about an interest assessment as that only shows what you are interested in and is biased towards that which is familiar. Career assessments test your aptitude and finds careers that match.

I have done career assessments before, they match with software engineering, networking and other IT jobs. I'm also a junior who is graduating next year, I came into this current school with 60 plus credits. Changing my major now wouldn't' be cost efficient at all.
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I am sorry. I donít want to be harsh but honestly I donít think itís career path for you. It doesnít mean you are incompetent. I think I am a competent person but Iíd fail computer science because itís not my thing. Itís never too late to change your major. You might lose some credits but itís not the end of the world. Donít be harsh on yourself

Its late to change my major as a junior graduating next year. It wouldn't be cost efficient at all.
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I took the data structures class three times before i passed it, true story. By the end of my computer career, somebody actually disparaged me by saying i was a natural at computers, that somehow what i did didnt count because it was so easy for me.

Really, once you figure out the secret behind data structures - that you are looking at the address OF the address?! - something like that, or the address of a list of addresses, not the actual data - and read some of the old James Martin books, and how to write a perfectly structured program, and IT SHOULD LOOK BEAUTIFUL - then you will be on your way. Also read malcolm goodwins book on Masters - it will take you 10,000 hours to become a master at your work. Which is more or less the olden times journeymans apprenticeship.
Thanks, Ill check out those books!
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