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Trig Jun 21, 2019 at 02:20 PM
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I mean, why not? I've stopped self-harming myself about six months ago, the reason was that it stopped giving me any pleasure and relief. But I did a lot.

Why won't you consider this as one of possible coping skills? It does helped me, so why won't I use it? Ok, if the argument is that it hurts the ones who loves you, and they see these cuts on your body and worry about you:

1. Why don't they worry much more about the PAIN I experience, which makes me cut myself?

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3. Why can't I just cut myself on body parts which are invisible for others?

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I mean, why not? I've stopped self-harming myself about six months ago, the reason was that it stopped giving me any pleasure and relief. But I did a lot, on my wrist and shoulders.

Why won't you consider this as one of possible coping skills? It does helped me, so why won't I use it? Ok, if the argument is that it hurts the ones who loves you, and they see these cuts on your body and worry about you:

1. Why don't they worry much more about the PAIN I experience, which makes me cut myself?

2. Why don't they consider it as a choice between self-harm and suicide, so they would be happy to choose the first one, if I ask them?

3. Why can't I just cut myself on body parts which are invisible for others, like stomach, legs, shoulders, etc.?


thank you for posting this.

I honestly don't know where I stand on this

on one hand, I am a strong believer of the fact that each of us can do with our bodies what we like (its our boddies, we have to face the conciquences) and self harm is a coping method like anything else

a lot of people will turn to you and say well.. drinking is bad, drugs are bad, self harm is bad, but the point is it helps people- and that's why they do what ever it is to cope.

on the other hand, these things are an addiction

you can't just self harm once and then stop, because you crave it in future. you mention in your post that you wish they would be happy you chose self harm over suicide, well: self harm can lead to suicide (and other infections)

it's a slow suicide because it just goes on, and on, and on, until one day it goes too far

no one wants to see you hurt yourself
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Default Jun 21, 2019 at 03:37 PM
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thank you for posting this.

I honestly don't know where I stand on this

on one hand, I am a strong believer of the fact that each of us can do with our bodies what we like (its our boddies, we have to face the conciquences) and self harm is a coping method like anything else

a lot of people will turn to you and say well.. drinking is bad, drugs are bad, self harm is bad, but the point is it helps people- and that's why they do what ever it is to cope.

on the other hand, these things are an addiction

you can't just self harm once and then stop, because you crave it in future. you mention in your post that you wish they would be happy you chose self harm over suicide, well: self harm can lead to suicide (and other infections)

it's a slow suicide because it just goes on, and on, and on, until one day it goes too far

no one wants to see you hurt yourself
You're on a wrong logic path. You say that self harm leads to suicide, because you've heard about people who used to self-harm at first, and commit suicide then. But I'll tell you that the reason of the suicide is not a self-harm, it's pain and depression. You consider suicide as the last option to end your pain. And, if self-harm reliefs the pain, therefore it makes you live longer, as long as there's another option to end your pain, despite it's a temporary solution.

Believe me, no one truly wants to die. I want to die in my overwhelming painful depressive episodes, and I tried 3 times to do this. But I don't want to end my life, no. I want to live a happy, painless life. But there's so much pain, that I forget about all the good things I experience in my normal days, and these times, the intention to end the pain fights with the fear of death, or fear of worse pain while being in agony of dying.

I know that someday fear of death will loose this battle, and I'll do this. But I'm still alive, and, partially, thankfully to self-harm.
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You're on a wrong logic path. You say that self harm leads to suicide, because you've heard about people who used to self-harm at first, and commit suicide then. But I'll tell you that the reason of the suicide is not a self-harm, it's pain and depression. You consider suicide as the last option to end your pain. And, if self-harm reliefs the pain, therefore it makes you live longer, as long as there's another option to end your pain, despite it's a temporary solution.

Believe me, no one truly wants to die. I want to die in my overwhelming painful depressive episodes, and I tried 3 times to do this. But I don't want to end my life, no. I want to live a happy, painless life. But there's so much pain, that I forget about all the good things I experience in my normal days, and these times, the intention to end the pain fights with the fear of death, or fear of worse pain while being in agony of dying.

I know that someday fear of death will loose this battle, and I'll do this. But I'm still alive, and, partially, thankfully to self-harm.


I take your point- fully

I still stand by the fact though.. it can lead to suicide (not all the time), but if the person is really addicted, it can
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@KuzMax, I am not by any means stating that I know what you're going through, because it seems rather painful what you're experiencing. But self-harm is not a positive coping skill. The idea is to come up with another more positive coping skill to replace self-harm. Of course, I'm not a therapist, but I think that giving self-harm such a positive spin is not a good thing. It also seems to me like upon first glance, it might seem like self-harm has kept you alive, as you say, but I don't think you need to thank self-harm for that. Also, I don't see why suicide is not connected with self-harm. Self-harm is sort of a way of seeing "what suicide is like" so to speak. I'm not saying this is the case for you, but I am talking in general terms here. Also, can you say there is even a reason for suicide? It seems to me like suicide is caused by a variety of factors, but can we generalize and say there are specific reasons why people commit suicide? The truth, it seems to me, is unable to be known. I am not trying to be oppositional here, though I'm just trying to help you out with some of the things you wrote in this posting. Do you have any professional help you can turn to? I sincerely hope you can get some help or at least some more clarity on this matter.
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