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Old 02-14-2020, 08:53 AM   #11
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I think I commented on a similar thread once while still not understanding much about why cutting is bad.

But I primarily think it's bad because it can be rationalized as a method of helping oneself.

It's a "tricky" way to help oneself feel better.

In no way do I intend or want to minimize the struggles of those who go through episodes where they cut. It is a bad thing to have to deal with and in no way am I patronizing those who deal with it.

But I feel like it's a method of causing mental satisfaction that physically causes bodily harm. And also it can lead to death, and has other negative side-effects.


Once again, I don't mean to say that it's something that can be stopped easily or even without effort. Of course, it is tough to deal with, and I give my support to all who deal with it on this forum.
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Old 02-20-2020, 06:37 PM   #12
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"it's a method of causing mental satisfaction that physically causes bodily harm" Yes but what about if the bodily harm is barely noticeable and very trivial, while satisfaction is more noticeable ? More benefit than drawback, some will say.

I just compare this practice to extreme sports: why do people do that ? Because they like 'hardcore' - it gets them fired up. They take risks, they may die or get their skull pierced and go full-Michael-Schumacher. It's arguable an objectively bad practice. What they do get though is adrenaline. And they crave it so they go for more risk and more hardcore.
Why do some people do self-harm ? To generate encephaline. The organism produces a handful of narcotics that activate 'mu-receptors'. Morphine and heroin are other examples of mu-receptor activators. So you bet for some people (there's always variability of response) the feelings are crazy positive and hard to resist. But as with extreme sports, it can be done in a way where risk is reduced. One doesn't have to go full-yolo about it. There are moderate methods.

So why look down on moderate self-harm if one doesn't look down on skydiving ?
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"it's a method of causing mental satisfaction that physically causes bodily harm" Yes but what about if the bodily harm is barely noticeable and very trivial, while satisfaction is more noticeable ? More benefit than drawback, some will say.

I just compare this practice to extreme sports: why do people do that ? Because they like 'hardcore' - it gets them fired up. They take risks, they may die or get their skull pierced and go full-Michael-Schumacher. It's arguable an objectively bad practice. What they do get though is adrenaline. And they crave it so they go for more risk and more hardcore.
Why do some people do self-harm ? To generate encephaline. The organism produces a handful of narcotics that activate 'mu-receptors'. Morphine and heroin are other examples of mu-receptor activators. So you bet for some people (there's always variability of response) the feelings are crazy positive and hard to resist. But as with extreme sports, it can be done in a way where risk is reduced. One doesn't have to go full-yolo about it. There are moderate methods.

So why look down on moderate self-harm if one doesn't look down on skydiving ?

Yeah I get what you're saying. In fact, I really have no response to why cutting is bad. I guess based on the pain-pleasure calculus, it is not objectively bad. I don't really have anything else to say regarding the matter . . .
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Old 02-22-2020, 09:06 AM   #14
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Hi everyone, I did that too, when I was a teenager, so it was a long time ago. I still have the scars, but I do not feel embarrassed about it, because they are a reminder of my struggle for myself. I dealt with a lot at the time when I used to cut, and the cuts would provide me with some kind of relief that I could not feel otherwise. A psychologist friend of mine told me, much later, that cuts are sometimes called, perhaps in psychological jargon, "gills" as in fish gills. Even if it comes across as a cold-hearted expression, it is vivid nonetheless, and I embraced it. Clearly enough, it is called so because sometimes those who inflict them on themselves feel they are suffocating, and need to "open" in order to catch a breath. I remember the feeling. In addition to this, when I would cut, I would feel as if I were more present, because I dealt with a lot of dissociation, and could not feel my body as my own. If anyone did tell me to stop cutting at the time when I did, I don't know if I could have, without the necessary therapeutic help and guidance. Yet, no one in my family really cared enough even to notice that this was going on. Sometimes people say that it is a cry for help, but I soon realized that no one was really listening. I cannot remember how I stopped cutting. I think it happened when I found other ways to calm myself, as someone already mentioned. By then I realized that no one was going to save me, and that the only person I can rely on was me. I became very ambitious professionally at one point in my life, and somehow focused all that contained energy towards achieving some goals that had some significance for me. I started building myself from scratch. Cuts are not as simple as love or hate for oneself. But they are a reason for concern, as they are only a skin deep manifestation of much more pervasive emotional problems.
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