why is prostitution illegal?

radio_flyer · Jul 06, 2010 at 04:40 PM

Not sure if this can be discussed here. Just curious I guess. Not that I want to be one. Is not a moral issue because "free sex" "premartial sex" happens every day. Again, not a "moral" issue as both men and women have had "multiple partners" in their lifetime.

So why is prostitution so hated and illegal. A male friend's opinion is that women would make tooooo much money and why pay for what one can get for free. Not really a good answer, yet it is sooooo frowned upon by society.

Porn in a sense is prostituion as they are getting paid for sex for the viewers entertainment? Sex is love? Love is sex?

pachyderm · Jul 06, 2010 at 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by radio_flyer

So why is prostitution so hated and illegal.

It makes people envious?

perpetuallysad · Jul 06, 2010 at 08:00 PM

Its not hated and illegal everywhere. It tends to be more so in areas where certain religions are dominant. It's also about control. People don't "like" the idea that anyone can just pay a woman (usually) for sex. I guess it just goes against some people's ideals of what is right and good. Its similar to nude/topless dancing. When I was 18 I met a topless dancer and she was a normal person. It really made me think about it and though I wouldn't do it, I can respect someone who does.

El-ahrairah · Jul 07, 2010 at 01:58 AM

Not sure, I think they should legalize it, it would be controlled and much safer, "pimping" would have to a professional thing and the women would be able to get checked, hospitalized if needed, housed, payed properly and still make money. People kidnapping children to be forced in to prostitution would be easier to focus on.

I'm not for prostitution but I think it would be a lot better if it were to be legalized.

NuckingFutz · Jul 07, 2010 at 03:06 AM

I think it is because the government can't regulate it. How many prostitutes would report their earnings to the tax man honestly?

Timgt5 · Jul 07, 2010 at 03:37 AM

I have long held the belief that in a free society one owns one's own body. If someone chooses to grant sexual favors in exchange for money, who am I or anyone else to stop them. If I want to sell a kidney, who has they moral right to say I cannot do so, it is MY kidney.

After all if a woman marries a man (or vice versa) because he is wealthy, it is the same thing, no one is arresting "gold diggers" last time I checked.

pachyderm · Jul 07, 2010 at 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NuckingFutz

How many prostitutes would report their earnings to the tax man honestly?

How many do now?

perpetuallysad · Jul 07, 2010 at 09:50 AM

Wow, I had to refrain from a very sarcastic remark. I am totally proud of myself, even if I am telling you I didn't say un-said remark. Tee hee.

purple_fins · Jul 07, 2010 at 10:25 AM

while I don't agree with the whole idea of prostitution, I do wish it was legal. then the pimps would be held more accountable for abuse(a boss can't do to workers what pimps do to their workers) and there would be a HECK of a lot less killings of young women.

I watched on TV once where the statistics show that 8 times out of 10 it's the woman that goes to jail and not the customer-guy.

why doesn't a guy ever kill the "johns" that hire the prostitutes? I've always wondered that

It's never done ......
yet thousands of women have been murdered in the industry.....
seems women are regarded as more vile or something.
and the "johns" are often even married and doing such things behind their families back, sometimes spreading diseases to their "loved ones" .....

I just don't get it......... *sigh*....... who is more vile????

fins

RomanSunburn · Jul 07, 2010 at 01:11 PM

I've heard that in France it is legal and that the girls have to get monthly STD screenings. I also don't think it would be THAT hard to regulate taxes and such with them... I mean, it's a service, like any other. What works for the plumber or the electrician legally/financially could work for the prostitute, too, right? So it's a little less sexy to carry a ledger around with you... Some guys might like that, hehehe.

Though, I'm pretty much down for legalizing and taxing everything...

(JD) · Jul 07, 2010 at 02:35 PM

The one-on-one sexual encounter is not the full issue. The street prostitution, as it would be made "legal" is.

From a 2001 article:

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The problems associated with street prostitution affect not only the prostitute, but also the community in which he or she works and the family members of the people using his or her services. Prostitutes often suffer physical and sexual abuse, drug addiction and low self esteem. Residential and commercial areas often experience traffic congestion, noise, litter, harassment of residents, declining property values and business loss. Families of those who procure the services of prostitutes can suffer financial hardship, distrust, emotional suffering and family breakdown.

JOHN HOWARD SOCIETY OF ALBERTA

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One of the most serious problems associated with prostitution is the fact that the sex trade is surrounded by illegal, abusive and dangerous activities.[citation needed] One view insists that such situations occur because prostitution is kept illegal and the industry operates on the black market.[citation needed] Another, however, believes that legalizing and regulating prostitution does not improve the situation, but instead makes it worse

Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution

From: http://child-abuse.com/childhouse/ch...ion/part1.html

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n the USA, the source of a good deal of the literature is part of the university sector that specialises in 'objective' non-judgmental studies of AIDS awareness and/or delinquent psychology (Nightingale n.d.; Baizerman et al 1979; Davidson & Loken 1987; Widom and Ames, 1994). In the USA much emphasis is placed on the 'runaway' phenomenon, first noted in the 1960s and now closely tied to the prostitution discourse (Lloyd, 1977; Sereny, 1984; Schaffer & Deblassie, 1984). The current prostitution problem continues to be seen as having its roots in the alternative culture movements of the late 1960s, with a special emphasis on the hippie communities in San Francisco (Weisberg 1985). It is claimed that many children ran way to join these communes but, on leaving them, found themselves unable to make any money other than through prostitution (Schaffer & Deblassie, 1984).

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To combat the problems associated with prostitution: trafficking, violence, and the objectification of women, two approaches are generally promoted. While advocates of prostitution as a form of employment suggest that legalization will ameliorate these problems, policy makers tend to recommend penalties as a means to deter prostitution.
The immediate problem with legalization is that it provides state sanction to the assertion that women are sex objects, while concurrently failing to eradicate illegal prostitution. Women working in legal brothels in the U.S., Europe and Asia are forced to turn over forty to fifty percent of their profits and may be required to remain in the brothel for up to ninety percent of their time, in a given seven-day work week.
In addition, women may have to justify the refusal of a customer, and in some cases may not be able to refuse at all.18 Concurrently, women are often documented as prostitutes, an act that can result in future job loss and "blacklisting", forced medical tests from hostile clinical staff, and harassment by police officers.19
The costs of legalized prostitution such as rent to the brothel owner, medical examinations, and any registration fees are paid by the women involved in prostitution, thereby increasing the number of sexual encounters they must have in order to make a profit. Due in part to these costs, illegal prostitution has flourished in legalized areas as clients seek cheaper sex, and women determined to increase their income, or avoid psychological/drug tests, circumvent the legal system. In Germany, for example, there are three times as many non-registered women involved in prostitution as registered women. In Greece the ratio is more than 10 to 1.20
Prostitution that did not place women in danger would require private medical coverage, unions to demand fair profit sharing, and some form of prostitute controlled security system to ensure complete discretion over customer selection. The cost of all three would have to be passed on to the taxpayer to remove the incentives for illegal prostitution. Even then, the demand for illegal prostitutes in the form of minors or kidnapped foreigners would continue to be strong, as male 'buyers' often have a desire for the 'exotic'.
In short, the best imagined version of legalized prostitution has all of the current problems of international trafficking in addition to increased taxes, which most citizens would refuse to pay. Perhaps most damaging is the fact that doing so would provide state legal sanction and financial support to the objectification of women.

http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byiss...stitution.html

Here's an interesting article: http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...ion.html?cat=9

xxxflossyxxx · Jul 07, 2010 at 04:42 PM

hi there, its illegal to sell 'sex services' but escorting is selling ' time and companionship and you choose the service provided' well theres no difference just the legal loop holes. its one of the oldest professions that is a '***** house'. hope this answers your question. takecare xxx.

Perna · Jul 07, 2010 at 04:54 PM

I believe it's mostly a male dominance thing, like why women had to wear hats in churches and be overly clothed; they were "bad"/temptresses, it wasn't the man's fault, he can't help but be a man and want to mate. Women don't have those urges, don't you know. When was the last time you heard of a gigolo/male prostitute being arrested? Some men are violent toward gay men and not much nicer toward women taking control of their own sexuality either.

purple_fins · Jul 07, 2010 at 06:01 PM

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it wasn't the man's fault, he can't help but be a man and want to mate.

Gosh Perna, I sure hope you don't believe this neanderthal way of thought!

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Women don't have those urges, don't you know.

yea, right

... it's NOT culturally accepted to have those as a woman.... so they are suppressed and come out as migraines, mood swings and other body dysfunctions.

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Some men are violent toward gay men and not much nicer toward women taking control of their own sexuality either.

Some are NOT giving up their diluted prowess without a fight...... it's sad, as-- no good ever comes from oppression and injustice.

fins

(JD) · Jul 07, 2010 at 07:22 PM

There are different types of prostitution, though most of what we hear about are females being abused or arrested. Male, female, children are all prostituted.

The wearing of hats by women in church is a Bible thing, not a male dominance demand.

If we really think about this, there is plenty of prostitution going on in the world: men who have their "girl friends" move in with them without any other commitment can be considered one aspect of it. He's paying for it, but not in the obvious way of cash in the motel room or back alley.

There is a horrific child trafficking problem not just in other countries, but in the USA. http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/lis...factsheet.html

I doubt that making adult prostitution legal would make less child prostituting and trafficking.

Maven · Jul 08, 2010 at 02:35 AM

I think legalizing prostitution would have benefits and withdrawals. No, it wouldn't stop some of the abuse, but it would help some. It's legal in one county in Nevada (last I checked), and there hasn't been one STD reported with the women getting tested regularly and using condoms.

Pimps are known to beat and rape the women who work for them. The pimp lifestyle is glorified and makes me sick. The women are usually afraid to say anything when they're arrested (and yes, it's usually the prostitute, not the john or the pimp, who gets in trouble), because they know the pimp can and will harm them or someone they love.

I also get angry about people who speak about prostitutes in a derogatory fashion, because most didn't choose the profession, and others didn't know what they were getting into. The few (I believe it's only a few) who are happy being prostitutes don't deserve to be denigrated, either. Women are still sluts, while men are still studs.

radio_flyer · Jul 08, 2010 at 03:07 AM

Wanted to comment on the "street prostitution" comment... In my opinion, if prostitution was legal, there would be no need for street prostitutes. Actually one reason for making prostitution legal would keep the "ladies of the night" off the streets and in a safer environment..

Also pimps would be history as they would no longer be needed. Come to think of it, the ladies would get a bigger cut of the money earned without pimps. So legalizing prostitution would remove both the "ladies" and pimps from the streets...

Dang what would the world be like with "professional prostitutes" making enough money to be on the Forbes list, world's richest people... grins

radio_flyer · Jul 08, 2010 at 03:19 AM

I'd think there would also be less abuse if prostitution was legal and regulated. Am thinking also more on the line of "brothels". Brothels in every state... Or gee, how about a "brothel in the line of an amusement park, housing a variety of tastes and excitement".... Can you visualize a brothel theme park the size of Disney World? Wonder if the men would be standing in line as folks do in over crowded amusement parks..

Ok, getting back on track... Will have to get back.. lost my train of thought... oops

radio_flyer · Jul 08, 2010 at 03:32 AM

On "child trafficking"....Legalizing prostitution would not make "child trafficking" worse..imho............such a different topic, brings tears to my eyes just typing this..Those filthy people who want children grrrrrrrrrrr...

I would like to think that legalizing prostitution would stop child trafficking but that really is not true...wishful thinking is all that would be.......

Guess I really don't know what to say about this... Sadness overcomes me...

AkAngel · Jul 08, 2010 at 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by purple_fins

I watched on TV once where the statistics show that 8 times out of 10 it's the woman that goes to jail and not the customer-guy.

why doesn't a guy ever kill the "johns" that hire the prostitutes? I've always wondered that

It's never done ......
yet thousands of women have been murdered in the industry.....
seems women are regarded as more vile or something.
and the "johns" are often even married and doing such things behind their families back, sometimes spreading diseases to their "loved ones" .....

I just don't get it......... *sigh*....... who is more vile????

Pretty much the same type of stats with drug dealers and drug buyers fins. They almost always arrest the supply side.

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NuckingFutz Pet Lady of Psychcentral Member Since Sep 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 4,564 18 71 hugs given	Jul 07, 2010 at 03:06 AM #5 I think it is because the government can't regulate it. How many prostitutes would report their earnings to the tax man honestly?
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xxxflossyxxx Junior Member Member Since Sep 2009 Location: south tyneside, uk Posts: 16 14	Jul 07, 2010 at 04:42 PM #12 hi there, its illegal to sell 'sex services' but escorting is selling ' time and companionship and you choose the service provided' well theres no difference just the legal loop holes. its one of the oldest professions that is a '***** house'. hope this answers your question. takecare xxx.
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