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Old 01-10-2013, 11:42 PM #11
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Thank you, Harley! Let me explain about Narco Mafia - he cites studies (without giving me references so I cannot quote) that show that the smoking ban in California has led to increases in the spread of marijuana use and hard drug use. From that he concludes that narco mafia is interested in promoting anti-tobacco information and tobacco bans. He probably believes that people would always need to have SOMETHING, so if they are prohibited to smoke, they would turn to marijuana and drugs.

I used to use marijuana for sleep and told him about it. I do not do it anymore simply because of the cost - it is a great sleep medicine and I highly recommend it and low doses are sufficient, without psychedelic effect. He was so against it. But what he offered me was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clozapine (not available in the US), in low doses. It is an AP but in low doses is used for sleep, pretty much like Seroquel but without weight gain. Well, it did work, but next day I was heavily sweating, more than ever before in my life, and I read through the drug insert and sure enough, the last bullet point was sweating. And marijuana causes no side effects. He still insisted that marijuana is outside of conventional psychiatric treatment and thus inappropriate. The simple idea that one would always prefer a side-effect-free medicine regardless of whether it is inside or outside of conventional psychiatric treatment just did not penetrate his head so to speak. I also jokingly recommended marijuana to him as a blood pressure medicine (he uses something to lower his blood pressure) and he was horrified.

At any rate, I am glad I live in California that bans smoking in public places and allows medicinal use of marijuana... By his logic, the same people that pushed for legalization of medicinal marijuana in California in the 1990s were behind the ban on tobacco use in restaurants that occurred roughly at the same time.

But that is not the main point. The main point is, thank you for saying that it it was rude and petty of him to chastise me. He really should be happy that I am with him NOW. As I said I will not make a fuss about it now because there are higher priorities, but if we do start talking about spending time in Israel in May, I would say to him that if he is unwilling to let go of the past and enjoy my company in the present, I will not go with him. I will stand my ground. SO THANKS!
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No problem. lol Thank you for bringing up the point that you are, indeed, with him now...I wasn't going to mention it.

He'll have to forgive me if I find his whole anti-smoking conspiracy utterly absurd. Yes, there's a stigma against it, and yes, there's certainly a lot out that wish to see it reduced, but I feel like it's more a matter of educating people about the dangers and wanting an increased public health status than it is a hidden agenda to push people to hard drugs.

lol I've heard marijuana has the side effects of "hungry happy sleepy," so I'll concede to your opinion there. I'm not sure how I feel about it as a medicinal regimen, and I've never done it nor do I intend to do it myself (I can't risk a record for law school and the Bar, and my mother would kill me, so... ), but I've heard it can be good for medicinal purposes. I'm still...I guess a little biased against it. Not that the use or users bother me per se, but my mother did a fantastic job of assuring me that my young life would be well over if I ever tried it. I tend not to doubt that.
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Funny but it did not make me hungry at all. Just sleepy!
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I live in VA. The area of VA that I live in is like the pot capitol of VA. If you are after "the good stuff" everyone in VA comes here, to this part of VA. That being said and anyone who know the trials of my H and I, my T and I were talking about what we could do to help my H chill and relax a little, I told her special Floyd Co, brownies. I thought she was gonna choke. (She was a stoner in her wilder days) She knows about where I live.

There are many good and valid uses for pot. My uncle fell and broke his back. The pain meds made him so sick, he used pot to increase his appetite. We have an herbalist here that will recommend pot in a heartbeat. She works w/ you though to make sure it is safe w/ the meds you might be taking and other health history as well. It is execellent for cancer patents same theory. I wish my H would use just enough to chill, relax and enjoy life a little.
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I've heard of it being used to help chemotherapy patients regain an appetite and help cope with the nausea and pain. I've heard so much that the commonly prescribed prescription given to reduce nausea to chemo patients is only a synthetic version of THC (or that it mimics THC in the body or...something). That's always interested me.
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I've heard of it being used to help chemotherapy patients regain an appetite and help cope with the nausea and pain. I've heard so much that the commonly prescribed prescription given to reduce nausea to chemo patients is only a synthetic version of THC (or that it mimics THC in the body or...something). That's always interested me.
Yes, the medication is called MARINOL and it is FDA-approved, but very expensive.
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