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Old 02-21-2007, 09:00 PM #11
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lmo I didn't mean to imply that women that kiss on a first date or whatever had no self respect. not really sure how to word it without sounding bad. maybe self respect was the wrong way to put how I was feeling about it but I do think women in general tend to jump in bed much too soon, I have done it myself. I applaud the poster for her values.
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I understand what you are say bebop..... society tends to look down on females that sleep with a man on the first date.


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society tends to condone the exploitation of animals - but that doesn't mean that it is right (morality comes apart from what society does or does not condone).

it might be the case as an empirical matter of fact that only girls who disrespect themselves sleep with a guy on a first date... but then again, it might not.

i guess it is up to every individual to find out what is right for them.

it is hard with the mixed messages about what is right for people, or the authoritarian messages about what is right for everyone. it can be hard to find out what is right for you. i guess that generally speaking learning involves a trial and error process. i don't see why this should be any different (unless one opts out of the learning and goes with the brute stipulation of what is right for everyone).
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Who is 'society' anyway?

And, this seems to be about setting personal boundaries and getting needs met. Sometimes those needs make maintaining boundaries very hard, and add alcohol to the mix and those boundaries can nearly disappear, at least temporarily while the needs are being met.

I don't think 'society' knows (or shoud know) who's sleeping with whom and when. There are other measures of responsibility that are more evident and that are socially acceptable/not acceptable.

Someone who judges another person harshly because they have "gotten them' to sleep with them easily isn't, in my opinion, a candidate for judgeship. what do YOU MEN say? what do YOU MEN say?
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Who is 'society' anyway?

And, this seems to be about setting personal boundaries and getting needs met. Sometimes those needs make maintaining boundaries very hard, and add alcohol to the mix and those boundaries can nearly disappear, at least temporarily while the needs are being met.

I don't think 'society' knows (or shoud know) who's sleeping with whom and when. There are other measures of responsibility that are more evident and that are socially acceptable/not acceptable.

Someone who judges another person harshly because they have "gotten them' to sleep with them easily isn't, in my opinion, a candidate for judgeship. what do YOU MEN say? what do YOU MEN say?
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Just peeping in...

I want to say, LMo, I completely agree. Just because a woman kisses or has sex on the first date doesn't mean she doesn't have a lot of self-respect.

I'm also sick of the double-standard. I don't encourage one to be promiscuous (especially with the diseases out there), but I don't think promiscuous people (male and female) are "bad" or should be changed. I wouldn't avoid friendship wiht someone based on their sexual activity, unless they were having sex with my guy.
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I am a guy. I don't throw stones, but some do. I will use a movie quote that I think is appropriate. "Why is it that men always feel compelled to chase the ones that run away? Immaturity!?" I think that in youth, It doesn't matter as much. As an adult entering into a life long bond, it matters alot. Before such a commitment, men want to know that there will be no regrets, and that they are THE special one. I think men are more cautious than women about entering life long Relationships.
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Cajun, glad you posted here!

Just a reminder ladies, this question was directed to the men on the boards. Lets try not to get off topic here.

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Just a reminder ladies, this question was directed to the men on the boards. Lets try not to get off topic here.

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Ok - I asked a few males in RL, and this was their answers (almost the same).... down to the T.

While a lot of guys will try to get into a girls pants and will go for it if given permission to do so..... most guys would prefer that females did not give in so easily - for while guys do like and want sex they do not necessarily want a girl that will give it up so fast, even though a lot of guys will try.
When it comes right down to it a guy wants a girl-friend that has held out for a while (kinda like a test), and yet they will not usually pass up a casual one night stand or a short term dating partner that is willing to give it up.

In the End....... it is really just Nature vs. Human and Nature will always want to win if given the right of way.

NOW!! - Please do NOT jump on ME for this reply for it came from 3 different guys, not me.... ages of the men: 22, 35, 42.




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Thanks Rhapsody!!!!!!!! I didn't think to ask some men I know. Hmmm. Next time my guy friend is online, I'll ask him.

This is really helpful btw. Thanks for the topic!
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