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Default Apr 21, 2019 at 11:35 AM
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Seems to be that way..my father was an alcoholic and also very narcissistic..

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No, they absolutely do not always have an addiction, unless you count as an addiction their trying to have power over other people to get their own way so that everything centers around themselves.

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No, they absolutely do not always have an addiction, unless you count as an addiction their trying to have power over other people to get their own way so that everything centers around themselves.
No I am referring to alcohol, drugs. Ha guess I’m just lucky then! 😏
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Default Apr 21, 2019 at 02:01 PM
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No. Not necessarily.

How do you know for sure he is narcissist though. Was he actually diagnosed with NPD? He might be just a jerk. Or just an achoholic.
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Default Apr 21, 2019 at 03:00 PM
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NPD is a an addiction by it's self but usually leads to other voluntary addictions
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No, they absolutely do not always have an addiction, unless you count as an addiction their trying to have power over other people to get their own way so that everything centers around themselves.
This is what I’ve found about Narcissistic individuals. It’s all about power and control. Some also have addictions in my experience but that isn’t the core issue...

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No. Not necessarily.

How do you know for sure he is narcissist though. Was he actually diagnosed with NPD? He might be just a jerk. Or just an achoholic.
Not taking responsibility, blaming me for everything, gaslighting, etc. I have experience you could say
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Not taking responsibility, blaming me for everything, gaslighting, etc. I have experience you could say
Some alcoholics and drug addicts behave the way you described. Their behavior is caused by their addiction. Not necessarily narcissists.
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Default Apr 22, 2019 at 06:46 AM
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My dad was what they used to call manic depressive-undiagnosed. He definitely had narcissistic traits but he wasn't officially diagnosed so I cant be sure. He was a poly-substance addict. Alcoholic for sure, speed, other people's prescriptions. He started out as a hippie doing recreational drugs and never stopped. I found out the extent when I had to clean out his office. He died in the driveway of a massive heart attack when he was 47 on his birthday- its been 19 years. I never thought I would have lost my Dad when I was 24. he abused me- and changed course only the last two years of his life so I guess I got something good out of his life. I believe his addictions made him a horrible person which is why I am not sure if he was really a narcissist so I think @Divine is on to something.

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They're likely prone to them because addiction leads you to a state of bingeing self-indulgence and self-pity.
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My dad was what they used to call manic depressive-undiagnosed. He definitely had narcissistic traits but he wasn't officially diagnosed so I cant be sure. He was a poly-substance addict. Alcoholic for sure, speed, other people's prescriptions. He started out as a hippie doing recreational drugs and never stopped. I found out the extent when I had to clean out his office. He died in the driveway of a massive heart attack when he was 47 on his birthday- its been 19 years. I never thought I would have lost my Dad when I was 24. he abused me- and changed course only the last two years of his life so I guess I got something good out of his life. I believe his addictions made him a horrible person which is why I am not sure if he was really a narcissist so I think @Divine is on to something.
Yes..addictions really make people mean..he thinks it’s justified. I have witnessed him getting worse and worse and this was the ultimate in humiliation and disrespect. I felt it was set up.
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Default Apr 22, 2019 at 08:56 PM
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Alcoholism has a lot of similarities to NPD. However, some individuals suffered trauma and do have ptsd and self medicate with the alcohol and other drugs as a way to escape their emotional pain. Often when a person finally gets sober, that is if they do get sober, it's not uncommon for that person to begin experiencing all the symptoms of ptsd. I have been learning about that from therapists who treat individuals who had addictions and alcoholism that also suffered from ptsd.
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