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Kevin, the systems's youngest, discovered markers in the bedroom. So of course he was going to use them, granted that it's good he drew on paper and not say himself or the wall like a lot of 5 year olds would. Anyway he's very proud of them so I thought I'd share them.
Little one's drawings
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/itGYZAO.png[/IMG
Apparently he doesn't know the bunny's name, or he can't spell it or something I dunno. But here's his drawings of his purple house and with my mom...which I guess he considers his mom. He's just adorable and I love him.
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Kevin, the systems's youngest, discovered markers in the bedroom. So of course he was going to use them, granted that it's good he drew on paper and not say himself or the wall like a lot of 5 year olds would. Anyway he's very proud of them so I thought I'd share them.
Little one's drawings
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/itGYZAO.png[/IMG
Apparently he doesn't know the bunny's name, or he can't spell it or something I dunno. But here's his drawings of his purple house and with my mom...which I guess he considers his mom. He's just adorable and I love him.
that is amazing. each of my biological children at age 5 could not draw such straight lines let alone stay coloring inside the lines. nor draw in multi colored grass. at age 5 my children you would have been lucky to figure out they were attempting to make the sausage shape into a dog or cat (would not be able to tell which was a dog or the cat. and the house would not have been symmetrical. the house would have had a window higher than the other and door looking like a dome lol

Id say your 5 year old definitely has artistic talent well beyond their years.

suggestion maybe you can find an art class since coloring is a good thing for you and your alters.
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Kevin, the systems's youngest, discovered markers in the bedroom. So of course he was going to use them, granted that it's good he drew on paper and not say himself or the wall like a lot of 5 year olds would. Anyway he's very proud of them so I thought I'd share them.
Little one's drawings
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/itGYZAO.png[/IMG
Apparently he doesn't know the bunny's name, or he can't spell it or something I dunno. But here's his drawings of his purple house and with my mom...which I guess he considers his mom. He's just adorable and I love him.
As a person that is self taught with drawing and painting, I am so impressed with that drawing and how mature it is for a 5 year old to draw.
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that is amazing. each of my biological children at age 5 could not draw such straight lines let alone stay coloring inside the lines. nor draw in multi colored grass. at age 5 my children you would have been lucky to figure out they were attempting to make the sausage shape into a dog or cat (would not be able to tell which was a dog or the cat. and the house would not have been symmetrical. the house would have had a window higher than the other and door looking like a dome lol

Id say your 5 year old definitely has artistic talent well beyond their years.

suggestion maybe you can find an art class since coloring is a good thing for you and your alters.
XD I love little kids drawings, bad or good. I just think its a really good thing to encourage creativity no matter how young they are. I really do kinda wonder what his though process was, particularly with the grass. Of course it might just have been because the markers were dying who knows! On that note dying markers drives me nuts.

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As a person that is self taught with drawing and painting, I am so impressed with that drawing and how mature it is for a 5 year old to draw.
Yeah I'm rather impressed myself. Although many of us draw. I mean the host does all kinds of mediums so it's not such a stretch to think that even a little one could pick up on a few things.
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That's awesome. It's so cool that he can express himself through art work.

It's important to remember that five year old alters do not literally possess the skills and abilities of an actual five year old. They do possess an element of developmental stuckness as they were split off and separately contained, but some types of memory and learning cross the amnesiac barriers. For instance narrative and declarative memory might be restricted to an alter, but the ability to walk and talk, feed oneself, or even complex actions such as reading and writing or even driving a car might be shared. Or they might not be. It may depend on what was needed.
Just saying that comparing the skills of an alter to a same aged child doesn't work. An alter may be only say 8 years old, but they could either share or "inherit" the ability to do a certain task from other alters, or they could have been practicing an 8 year old skill for 20 years or more. A child alter really isn't the developmental equivalent of an actual child of the same age.

In terms of art a member of my own system is apparently quite artistic because people sometimes show us paintings or whatever that apparently "I" made for them years ago, but I have absolutely no memory of either creating them or even seeing them before in my lifetime, so I don't know how that works. Even though I know the reason is dissociation it still really astounds me when it happens. I have no concept of myself as an artist and can't draw or paint anything.
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That's awesome. It's so cool that he can express himself through art work.

It's important to remember that five year old alters do not literally possess the skills and abilities of an actual five year old. They do possess an element of developmental stuckness as they were split off and separately contained, but some types of memory and learning cross the amnesiac barriers. For instance narrative and declarative memory might be restricted to an alter, but the ability to walk and talk, feed oneself, or even complex actions such as reading and writing or even driving a car might be shared. Or they might not be. It may depend on what was needed.
Just saying that comparing the skills of an alter to a same aged child doesn't work. An alter may be only say 8 years old, but they could either share or "inherit" the ability to do a certain task from other alters, or they could have been practicing an 8 year old skill for 20 years or more. A child alter really isn't the developmental equivalent of an actual child of the same age.

In terms of art a member of my own system is apparently quite artistic because people sometimes show us paintings or whatever that apparently "I" made for them years ago, but I have absolutely no memory of either creating them or even seeing them before in my lifetime, so I don't know how that works. Even though I know the reason is dissociation it still really astounds me when it happens. I have no concept of myself as an artist and can't draw or paint anything.
Well I mean that does make sense. To my knowledge that's all he's drawn. I mean he likes to make butterflies out of legos and those are pretty impressive. Not everyone in the system draws or does some form of art. I do, Kitty does although all she draws is kitties, and someone else doodles when he'd bored. I guess it's in part a bit of body memory, like how you can go to ride a bike perfectly fine even after not having done it for years. I dunno I have no idea what I'm talking about i should probably stop.

I kinda think the entire system is in a bit of an odd place. The body is almost 29, yet has a form of autism, so developmentally it's a bit odd. I think most everyone has shown some symptoms of that, but I dunno if I know everyone well enough to say that. So Kevin is in an adult body that's a bit socially retarded...A weird mix of grown up and immature. I'm absolutely immature at times and I'm the one who identifies as the body's identity, or something close to that.
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I think this picture is impressive and pleasing to look at
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That's a very good drawing, rise13eyond! I definitely couldn't draw like that when I was 5. Kevin should be proud of himself. Sending many hugs to you and to him
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I did some more checking on this as it relates to me and my alters... I wanted to do this because this thread peeked my curiosity about my childhood. you see I became DID because of extreme trauma before I was 5. I wasnt actually diagnosed until my college days but my alters were there from the first moment that my mind experienced such extreme trauma that the first alter creation happened before I was 5. this means all my childhood when ever I experienced something triggering I would have my dissociation symptoms and then the alter who dealt with that trigger would take control and handle that... for example in kindergarten if while in school it started to rain outside I would have dissociated and my alter rainy would have dealt with the fact that I was in school during a rain storm. she would have to do what ever was going on at that moment, like art class drawing and such...

my point is that my alters were taking control in every aspect of my life including drawing or other school activities any time I got triggered, which means that in elementary school my teacher would have documented in my files whether or not I was behind in skills for my age and grade, on track or advanced for my age and grade, in which case I would have either failed my grades and put in special education schools that dealt with special needs /mentally retarded/ mentally challenged/ what ever word your location uses, stayed on track of my grade and graduated on time or been placed in special classes for the gifted.

in terms of art class the notes my teachers made through out my school years was that on tests that required making drawings/ graphs and such I was right on the average percentile and along side my peers, none of my teachers noted anything to the affect that I was drawing above my age abilities.

for my own piece of mind for fear of possibly another alter who may be able to draw more advanced due to dissociation filters and such I contacted my treatment provider and we did some research on this interesting idea. turns out no my alters even those stuck in time so to speak would not have been able to perform any abilities beyond what their sense of agency was. if their sense of agency was to be a 5 year old child they would have been a 5 year old child in every sense of the word.

the reason mine would not have been able to color beyond their age grouping was because my alters followed the abusers code of "do not tell" if they were doing things beyond their age then that would have called attention to their existence and the abuse. in other words breaking the abusers code of do not tell.

anyone that wants to know whether their alters were able to perform daily functioning skills beyond their age and sense of agency and whether their system followed the abusers code of do not tell (in other words did things that would bring attention to their self ) you can get copies of your elementary school records by contacting the schools you attended. here in the USA you can go to the school and view your records and make copies of your records and they can send you copies of your records for free, if your file is extensive with lots of extra paperwork they may ask you for a small donation or fee per page copied.

I was so hoping to find that all my test scores, homework, class participation, everything that being able to draw beyond my age/ my alters age affects though out my elementary, jr high and high school would say I had alters that were coloring and drawing, graphing, charting, writing, reading, math, science and all that beyond my grade and age.

but for me it was not so. my grades, test scores and class participation was always right on track/ average/ not calling any attention to any special skills, though I did have some failing grades none to the point of consistency that would result in drawing major attention to except a reading / learning disorder called dyslexia.
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Kevin, the systems's youngest, discovered markers in the bedroom. So of course he was going to use them, granted that it's good he drew on paper and not say himself or the wall like a lot of 5 year olds would. Anyway he's very proud of them so I thought I'd share them.
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Apparently he doesn't know the bunny's name, or he can't spell it or something I dunno. But here's his drawings of his purple house and with my mom...which I guess he considers his mom. He's just adorable and I love him.
That's a great picture Kevin
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