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Old 03-20-2018, 03:54 PM #21
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I want to note a change.
I am now taking higher dose generic Adderall every 4-6 hours. This has been helpful so far. I am on day #3 and it seems promising. If we need it, I think it's wise to take it on a regular basis and also take "enough" of it.


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I am doing well on Adderall. It's the first time I can see a light at the end of the tunnel in ages! It's not a "cure-all," but it has definitely helped.

One of the keys to using Adderall is to systematically try various doses and timing in order to find your own individualized optimal dosing.

Some people, for example, can tolerate 30 mg, twice daily. At 30 mg, I was so dizzy I had to rest on the bed. Not good. At 15 mg. every 4-6 hours, I am awake, less depressed, have some physical and mental energy, etc.

My pdoc has told me stimulants were used for depression, many years ago, before the tricyclics and SSRIs were discovered. I have wasted a lot -- many, many-- years trying to tolerate all of the many drugs. Those I could tolerate did nothing for my depression. Adderall is giving me some hope.

I will continue to update here.


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Thanks so much for the update. How great that you find it helpful. Interesting what you say about individualizing the dosing strength and frequency.

Glad you have some hope.
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Try Remeron and Trazadone for sleep issues.
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I appreciate being referred to this thread. Very informative. I've long had treatment resistant depression and an increasingly severe sleep disorder. I have an appointment in April with a pdoc. I'm going to ask for a stimulant. Someone has to let me try something. My quality of life is going down the drain. Everyday from 10 a.m. till 4 p.m. I am horribly lethargic, fatigued and depressed. It lifts in the evening. But mornings are just awful.

Another problem is I can't stay asleep at night, but keep waking up. Sometimes - most nights, lately - I wake up at 3 a.m. and can't get back to sleep. I'm desperate. This is causing my whole life to become disorganised. I don't know how to convey the mess this is making of my life. I can't hardly plan anything.
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My friend has been taking adderall for ADHD and it has helped him cope in daily life, but I didn't realize that it could also help with depression.
I suffer with extreme anxiety and severe depression. Do you think this would help me?
I cannot say for sure- you would have to consult with your doctor. But I would mention it to them. Be prepared for all sorts of issues with it. Ignorance is a beast in the USA.
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Remeron helps me a lot with anxiety and sleep. I take 15 mg before bed. Adderall and other ADHD drugs didn't do much for me.

Try MAOIs and then TCAs. The dietary objections to MAOIs are way over exaggerated according to a number of experts.
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I was just prescribed Adderall because none of the antidepressants work for me but I'm afraid to take it. It's sitting here but I heard to many horror stories. I've read about to many lives that were ruined taking it. Even if you only take the recommended dose I heard it effects your brain and changes you. Also your relationships everything. Please tell me more about this. I hate feeling lower than a snakes belly but there has to be something for me. Help
- If you have been prescribed Adderall by a qualified doctor, then you might consider taking it. There are meds that I don't want to take because I have a "hunch" or hinky feeling not to; or I am afraid I'll just be going through the same old story of the new drug not working and I am back to square one.
As for Adderall affecting your brain and your relationships- hasn't depression all ready done that to you? It has pretty much ruined the life I might have had.
If you are seeing a therapist perhaps they could help walk you through trying it- or you can take one of the on-line surveys for depression today and while you start the initial dose, to sort of keep track if you are improving or not.
Adderall is not heroin- it should not get you hooked right away; it shouldn't make you "high" but it very well may make you feel better, or at least more functional ( my own personal experience)
It is good that you are wary of a drug and are checking out the information you can find.
I would guess it depends too on your basic health, if you don't suffer from any heart issues, etc.
I hope this helps a little. My guess would be if you don't have any history of drug abuse you probably won't have any issue with adderall.
But that is just my own unprofessional opinion. I would be interested in seeing how it works for you.
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I really appreciate your post as I have been on Adderall for a few years and have not until now read anything about it being used for depression. It really helps the feeling of heaviness like I'm weighed down. I almost could have written your post especially regarding attitudes of others if the know you're on it. It doesn't cause me to feel anything other than better for not feeling the heaviness which allowed me to work for many years. The many other symptoms I've had many life changes and Thanks so much!
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I've been prescribed Ritalin some months ago and have found it somewhat helpful, which I'll take as worthwhile.

I see I never responded above to the OP's main point - that people can be horribly judgemental and make judgements based on zero knowledge/experience.

I, too, have found that to be true. It can be as bad as you describe, with even repercussions at one's place of employment that I thought were illegal. (It happened to me. I made a mistake on the job. I was asked to resign because my employer "knew I was being treated for depression." A coworker had made a worse mistake, but didn't get asked to resign.)

What I've learned is that you just can't safely discuss your psych diagnosis or treatment with people, especially in the workplace.

Heck, you are not always safe speaking candidly to a psychiatrist. But let me not digress.

When in doubt, just keep your business to yourself. And your safest doubting just about everyone. That's wrong, but that's the reality . . . in my experience. And it's not going to change soon, despite all the efforts at destigmitizing psych problems. I woukd say that stigma will be gone, about as soon as racial prejudice ends. Some things are just almost endemic to how people are socialized. Of course, everyone seems to think that they do have relevant experience. Ex: "Well, I have lots of things I could get depressed about, but I don't let myself." Ever heard that one??? I've gotten that from a family member who has a Masters Degree in counseling. Yeah. Stupidly, I took sucker punches to the gut repeatedly from this close relative before I wised up.

I'm pretty wised up now. I suppose there are some people who get it. I tend not to think that anybody who hasn't been there, themselves, gets it. And those who've experienced a serious depressive illness that resolved probably have trouble understanding chronically recurring depression.

If you read what "experts" wrote about depression 50 or 60 years ago, you'll see that a lot of their thinking was inane. Read "The Power of Positive Thinking" by Norman Vincent Peale - regarded as a classic, for decades. He claimed to have totally and permanently cured a succession of afflicted individuals by talking with them and explaining to them what he found wrong with their thinking. Many of his generation believed depression was a product of faulty logic. Better reasoning was the fix. Therapists still tend to conduct their practices as though that were what was needed. There is a canonized saint who stated that you can't argue a person into Faith, any more than you can torture a person into it. I would say the same about relief from depressive illness: You can't reason a person out of their affliction. That's my belief. Neither can you medicate a person out of it, though drugs have helped people to varying degrees - myself being one of them.

The first step towards Wisdom is for a person to be humble about what they think "they know . . . which often isn't so." (Not saying that comes easy to me either.)

It is simply one of life's cruelties that persons most needful of understanding and respect for the effort they are making often get the opposite.
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As far as I know stimulants like amphetemines have been used for TRD for many years. My husband used to take provigil for narcolepsy and while not a stimulant directly, its stimulant like properties did help him. I vaguely remember reading that they are doing med trials to see if provigil can help with depression related to Parkinsons.
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I have been taking Adderall for about 6 years now. Recently had to stop as I quit my job (it was making me miserable) so I lost my health insurance. My depression has gotten so much worse since, I thought it was from all the other meds I went off at the same time.

Now your post has me wondering: Was the Adderall helping my depression after all? It certainly made me more functional, helped me get more done, and it's sooo much easier to keep a job when I have it on hand. I have ADHD and MDD... Maybe it was helping with both and I didn't realize it?

When I was applying to my last job, since it's a casino and I'd be in charge of large sums of chips and cash every day, I had to pass a drug test. Which should have been fine, except it took the Compliance office 3 freaking weeks to "verify" my Adderall prescription!! Thank goodness I got a decent tax return a couple weeks before that or I'd have been homeless by the time they figured out how to do their jobs!! After sending pictures to multiple people more than once, I finally had to go into the office with prescription and pill bottle in hand! Once I did, the complaints went away quickly, the girls I spoke with were very helpful and compassionate. But man oh man! Some people love making you feel like a druggie even when you're just taking a medication exactly as prescribed!! This has led me to become very annoyed with people who DO abuse Adderall. It's because of people like that that makes it so hard for me to get a LEGAL drug which really helps me! What a nightmare...

Anyway, nothing really useful to contribute. Just wanna say your post really resonated with me, I completely understand!! Good luck to you and I hope you continue to battle the Depression Demons with your head held high. You got this!!
didn't your psych md notice you were in better shape with the meds? didn't he strongly encourage you not to go off? Not trying to be a hard *** but that's what comes to my mind?
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