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Old 01-23-2019, 09:43 PM #1
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Where does one go when they have exhausted all medication options, all therapy options (group, individual, etc)., and even did over 24 treatments of ECT with no success? I'm feeling at a loss here. It seems like professionals don't know where to go. Bloodwork shows nothing so far in terms of other causes of my unidentified mood disorder, and TMS isn't looking promising or helpful.

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Have you tried ketamine?

In some countries people who are treatment resistant can access to ketamine programs
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When you say failed medication, can you elaborate?
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If you've not failed with all talk therapies and more than say 30-40 meds combos, including MAOI's, then you can't really logically give up on those approaches yet.

If you have failed with the above, have you considered mushrooms/LSD? That's what I'm trying next. They shouldn't be illegal so I have no problem with it and there's increasing amounts of data showing how incredibly effective they are for TRD.

I've tried Ketamine, ECT, hypnotherapy, 60+ med combos and nothing has worked. I've had TRD and TR OCD for 23 very long years.
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I'm in a similar situation. I've nothing to offer other than that you are not alone.
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Where does one go when they have exhausted all medication options, all therapy options (group, individual, etc)., and even did over 24 treatments of ECT with no success? I'm feeling at a loss here. It seems like professionals don't know where to go. Bloodwork shows nothing so far in terms of other causes of my unidentified mood disorder, and TMS isn't looking promising or helpful.

If anyone's been here, Please help
Hello Enyapla. I am so sorry you are struggling. Depression can be really tough. I have been there...wondering what to do next. I gave up on meds a long time ago...didn't do anything for me other than bother my body with side effects...some even made the depression worse. Are you living with unipolar depression?

How about a holistic approach? Small steps, slowly over time, not a quick fix. Balanced diet, physical exercise (any movement you can handle), guided meditation, mindfulness, gratitude list each day, night positives which you read every morning before you get out of bed, acupuncture from a TCM doc (really helps me), consult with a naturopath (doctorate in naturopathy) if you like how those folks think.

There are a lot of options out there if you step outside of the allopathic medical model for a while. Having been down that path more times than I could count, I am not a fan to be honest...as far as healing from depression goes. Unlike you, psychotherapy really helped me at different points in my life though I'm not currently in therapy. Did you ever have a nice, kind therapist? Someone with a lot of experience as well as compassion?

Here's a link to a thread I created for folks who deal with depression and anxiety without drugs. I think there are some very interesting ideas on there. We're all unique, right? For me, it's about finding your own mix of things which comfort you.
Managing depression and anxiety without drugs

This might sound silly, given everything you've tried, but have you heard about the 52 Lists for Happiness notebook. I recently purchased one and it's already helping me. Check it out online. If you don't feel like buying one, I created a thread where each week I post a new list along with the action cues. They are small, manageable ways to increase your happiness level.
52 Lists for Happiness

A few more links which may help you:
Gratitude?
Share some music that soothes or energizes you
Share something nice that you did for someone
The Kindness of Strangers
Something goofy to make you smile for a moment!
Remembering compliments to feel better
What does your depression feel like?

I also REALLY recommend the documentary 'Happy' on Netflix. Provides research from all over the world on what helps to make people happier. I watched it twice and took notes. There are practical ways to improve your level of joy. Truly.

Feel free to PM me if you'd like.

Peace and healing energy to you
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I'm so sorry you're struggling, Enyapla I wish I've had more advice to give to you. Please don't give up. I know things seem pretty hard, but trust me when I say that they can get better. Don't give up hope. Is there anything we can do to help you? Please let us know. Do you have a support system IRL? Any friends or family that may help you? I'm so sorry. I hope you'll feel better soon. You can do this! You're strong, I know that. I believe in you. Remember that we're here for you if you need it. We'll listen to what you have to say. We care about you. I hope writing here helps a bit. I'm here for you as well if you need it. Feel free to PM me anytime. Let me know if I can do something to help you. I'm so sorry you have to deal with this
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Hello Enyapla. I am so sorry you are struggling. Depression can be really tough. I have been there...wondering what to do next. I gave up on meds a long time ago...didn't do anything for me other than bother my body with side effects...some even made the depression worse. Are you living with unipolar depression?



How about a holistic approach? ...



Peace and healing energy to you


No offence but this sort of stuff for severe treatment resistant depression is like pissing on a forest fire.
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No offence but this sort of stuff for severe treatment resistant depression is like pissing on a forest fire.
My depression has often been severe. And drugs never helped me. I've lived with it my whole life since the age of 4/5. I shared strategies which help me get from one day to the next. If you have an immediate one-size-fits-all cure for severe treatment resistant depression, please share. I would love to hear it and would probably try it myself.

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