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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 12:59 AM
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Interesting find on a NEW Breast Enhancement Device - <font color="red"> BRAVA </font>

The <font color="red"> BRAVA </font> Breast Enhancement and Shaping System is a clinically tested medical device that provides you with a new option to grow your own breast tissue without surgery or non-medically proven alternatives medications (pills or creams).

http://www.brava.com/what-does-it-look-like.asp

This INFO came from a Christian Help Site (open, honest & direct talk about sex).... this website was created to help Married Couples with any and all sexual issues / question.

If YOU would like to read more from the website or look into the recommendation they gave on the Brava Device - PM me for the LINK - as I do NOT think I can post a link to a sex site here in open forum.
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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 01:47 AM
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edema (swelling)

Rhap, this jumps right out at me. it isn't healthy to wear a device that causes edema. edema is accumulated fluid under the skin. not good.

i would very, very wary of this device. sounds like snake oil to me. i read the entire link.....pat
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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 02:02 AM
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sounds like snake oil to me.

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Help ME out here....... exactly what does that mean?

BTW - I am not looking to do IT myself (i am happy with my C cup), but I came across it and thought I would share, for it seemed interesting.
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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 02:10 AM
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Here is a little more INFO on it -

How does it work?

Brava is based on a medical principle known as tension-induced growth: Brava's vacuum stretches the breast tissue gently over a sustained period of time. When healthy cells are stretched, they respond both by swelling temporarily and by replicating until, eventually, the cells divide to accommodate stretch force. The new tissue is identical to the woman's original breast tissue, and feels the same both to her and from the "outside."

A cup size increase for every ten weeks of use, up to a C cup.
The device is intended for women who have breasts from smaller than an A cup up to a B cup.


Is it Safe?

The FDA has approved the device, and chosen not to regulate the device since they were convinced it was safe. There have been a number of studies and tests, and no damage or risks have been found. Tension-induced growth has been used for over 30 years in other areas of the body, so the science on this is very solid. Aside from skin irritation, there are no side effects or health risks.

I sent YOU the LINK to the Marriage Bed site...... Enhancement and Shaping System
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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 02:58 AM
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lol...do they have a decreasing boob system....im only 5 foot with a 38 D cup.....no enhancement here!!

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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 03:06 AM
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lol...do they have a decreasing boob system....im only 5 foot with a 38 D cup.....no enhancement here!!

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LOL - I hear you there girl....... I am just 5' 2" and my 44 C are big enough - I have you and your back (pains) in my heart of thoughts.

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> To achieve long lasting results, a woman needs to wear Brava, which costs around $2,500, for at least 10 hours a day, for a minimum of 10 weeks.

> According to the Plastic and Reconstructive Surgery report, 12 women completed a study of Brava's effectiveness and the longevity of its results. They wore the device for 10 weeks. After a four-week hiatus, the study showed the women had maintained a growth of one-cup size, on average.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=52166

> Although the company claims FDA-approval, the fact is that the only approval BRAVA has from the FDA is that it is allowed on the market as an unregulated device. The FDA cannot say whether any increase will last or how long it might last; they cannot even say whether the newly grown breast tissue will be healthy.

http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/bre...nonsurenla.htm

> But even with the patents, the product still does not have FDA approval despite a July Reuters story, published in dozens of news outlets, which had mistakenly said the device had won FDA approval. The FDA has given Brava the rights to market the product.

> And nothwitstanding the press in ABC's "Good Morning America," "NBC Nightly News," Telemundo, Glamour magazine, the Miami Herald and dozens of other TV, radio and print sources, a growing number of women report disappointment with results and problems with the device's technology.

> Some say they have developed scars, spontaneous lactation and other physical problems. A false advertising complaint false has been filed with the Southeast Florida Better Business Bureau and some women say they are consulting attorneys.

http://www.talksurgery.com/consumer/...0000107_1.html

and here is a BRAV-ARGH! website constructed by disgruntled consumers:

]http://home.comcast.net/~drmomentum/bravargh/[/url]

This is from their Q&amp;A:

A: Brava's website is advertising. They conducted the study. They threw almost one-third of the women out of the study. They are trying to sell you a Brava.

They don't print "results not typical" under the images in the "results of women" section of the site, but they don't say the results are typical, either. 100cc in 10 hours per day for 10 weeks is the arithmetic mean of the gains achieved by women in the study. The arithmetic mean is a good statistic to use if you have some high numbers and a lot of low numbers, to make the overall picture look rosier.

The purpose of this website is to help women understand the reality of using the Brava. It is intended as support for women who have already purchased one, and as an honest contrast to the Brava site for women who are contemplating purchasing one. This website was created as a free service by women who've used the Brava and know the reality, to help women who are only seeing the advertising put out by Brava and their authorized physicians. Brava is trying to sell the product and it also implies that if the product doesn't work, it is the fault of the woman using the system. This is not true. Brava does not work for everybody.

Q: You keep saying 100cc is miniscule, but a cup size is a significant amount of growth!

A: 100cc is probably not a cup size, unless you're already close to outgrowing your bra. Take a small plastic bag and put 100cc of water in it. You can measure 100cc with most medicine droppers or cups. Now place that in your bra.

Either you're a "rapid responder" and you'll gain 100cc or more (Brava does not tell us what percentage of users are "rapid responders," but it is most likely very low), or you're an "average" or "slow" responder, and you will not gain 100cc, even using the Brava more than 10 hours per day for 10 weeks.

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Q: Does it really take only 10 hours/day for 10 weeks to gain a cup size?

A: If you're a lucky "rapid responder," then it might. Although they haven't changed their website to reflect it, Brava customer service representatives are now telling us to use the device 12-14 hours/day (16 is better), for 12-14 weeks (16 is better).

Q: Is 100cc a full cup size?

A: That's questionable. In the discussion by Sumner A. Slavin, M.D., which follows the Khouri article, Dr. Slavin writes "Why...would an increase of only 105.6cc allow patients to state they were a full cup size larger? ... a 100cc implant would not produce such a change."

Q: Did every woman in the Khouri study gain 100cc?

A: No. According to the Khouri article, women stabilized with a mean volume increase of 103 plus or minus 35 ml. In percent of initial volume, women gained from 15 to 115 % of initial volume, with an average of 55%.

Q: How many women in the Khouri study gained 100cc or more?

A: Brava refuses to disclose this information. One can only assume the worst, and the worst is that very few women gained 100cc or more. As this number is an arithmetic mean, a few "rapid responders" could have skewed the (much worse) results of most women. It is also worth noting that almost one-third of the women in the initial study were dropped from the study. Their data is not included in the results.

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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 10:35 AM
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300cc is more like a cup size. i worked for a plastic surgeon for years........

snake oil means deception, etc. a "snake oil" salesman tried to sell me a device that would decrease my foot size......

edema is just that. accumulated fluid. and ten hours a day with that on and at night???????????

thanks, Alex, for the links and info.
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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 12:27 PM
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bluh? boobs? idk im not sure there is anything that will make them bigger without a risk or a time consumer attatched...
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i am only stating a fear, Rhapsody, that this device will harm and also that it is being marketed under false pretenses. this has nothing to do with your posting the link, personally. it made interesting reading, even if i am skeptical about it.....xoxox pat
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Default Jun 21, 2007 at 10:32 PM
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I looked at the before and after pics and most of them look like breast augmentation to me. oh well guess I will have to keep my little ones lol

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I looked at the before and after pics and most of them look like breast augmentation to me.

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Hmm - Enhancement and Shaping System

I too looked at the PICS and they looked like regular formed breast to me, just bigger than before...... they seemed to lacked the upper roundness that a argumentation gives, hence leaving me with the impression they were real.
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