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Old 09-10-2019, 05:07 PM   #41
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Good luck with everything, Rechu! Keep taking care of yourself! Let us know what happens! Stay strong! *hugs*
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:47 AM   #42
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Latest update. I got notice on Thursday that my insurer reduced my leave from 14 days to 5 days. They usually should ask for an assessment from one of their psychiatrists and a report from your doctor, not just reduce it without recourse.. So, I went to the government agency that handles appeals to submit one. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get a note from my doctor. It’s national holidays this week so a lot of people take vacation around this time. When I called his office last Thursday, they told me he was on vacation as of Wednesday. So, I probably won’t get the appeal approved.

I was told I would have to go back to work on Monday (today) so on Friday I went to the worker’s compensation clinic one town over (my town doesn’t have one). Again, my blood pressure was high and I had a panic attack in the collective taxi on the way over. The doctor agreed to start the intake process since I was very stressed and anxious and gave me another seven days, until the 23rd. Because of the holidays this week I can’t get into a psychiatrist’s evaluation until the 24th, so they said come in on the 23rd; not to work, and they will give me more time. The doctor was Venezuelan and gave me the time off before the receptionist made the appointment, so maybe he forgot it can be hard to get an appointment soon due to the holidays. I was given documents to give to work about all this. Luckily my husband dropped them off for me today.

I was doing some reading about toxic work environments. This article really hit home, especially the following points:
Ten Signs Your Workplace Is Toxic -- Whether You Know It Or Not

4. You can't bring up legitimate concerns with your manager. You already know what he or she will say if you protest a new policy or object to the fact that you're expected to work straight through another weekend. If you say anything, your manager will get mad and say "That's your personal problem! Figure it out."
You also can't go to HR with your complaints. They can't help you. Other people have tried going to HR with their issues and it only made their problems worse.

5. Corporate culture, trust, teamwork and collaboration are not topics anybody talks about in your workplace. They talk about targets, goals, production, errors, infractions, verbal warnings, written warnings, and the 'chain of command' instead.

6. You have no idea what your CEO's leadership philosophy is, if your CEO even has a leadership philosophy. All you know is that the managers you see every day lead through fear. Their management philosophy seems to be "I'll do whatever my boss wants me to do -- including mistreating and intimidating my employees."

7. There are sometimes meetings and training sessions called, but nobody speaks up at those meetings. The only time you or your coworkers tell the truth is when there are no managers around.

8. Nobody ever asks for your input. Once a year they send around a "confidential" employee engagement survey but nobody you know ever fills it out. How could they? If they told the truth about how they are treated, things would only get worse.

9. You've stopped expecting to be treated fairly at work. You've stopped expecting your manager to tell you the truth, because you've been lied to so many times before.
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I bet a lot of people feel like this at work. I keep trying to figure out why it’s like this and why it’s so common.
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Yeah, a lot of people I know are going through similar frustrations, either toxic environments or job loss in a few cases. So many work environments seem really toxic and no one seems to care, especially management who are usually the biggest part of the problem.

I opened up my work email to see if there was anything about the paperwork that was dropped off yesterday. There wasn't, but there was a bunch of emails about a new policy our boss instituted, without consulting anyone of course - no one has a voice but her. It is just going to create inaccurracies and more work. People have tried to bring this up, but she's not open to any discussion, of course.

I know there are people out there who like their jobs and good work environments. I have experienced this in the past. However my last two work environments have been awful due to poor management. I don't know if it's bad luck, or just a sign of the times, i.e. fewer decent places to work.
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I don't know if it's bad luck, or just a sign of the times, i.e. fewer decent places to work.

I think it might be a sign of the times. I’ve been thinking a lot about how I can find some positive coping methods because this is something I cannot change.
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Latest update. Yesterday I had a meeting with an occupational psychiatrist at the workers' compensation hospital. He approved continuing the evaluation process. He gave me another 21 days of leave and I have appointments tomorrow with a psychologist and then with a doctor on the 15th. I had to go to my office twice: once to drop off the initial leave extension and one to drop off the new 21-day extension. I was able to get in and out, leave things with the recepcionist and have her stamp a copy as received for my records both times without running into anyone I didn't want to see. I realized that, even though it is an open plan office, if I enter the door by the reception desk, it was relatively easy to not bee seen by my boss, her boss, etc. - unless they were headed to the bathroom or the elevator.

They will be sending a psychologist to my work to talk to people and see how the work environment is. Unfortunately, it sounds like often co-workers are not willing to talk negatively about management in these situations. It's understandable. I mean it is confidential but people may worry that word will somehow get out to our boss that they portrayed her negatively. If they do actually tell the truth, it will help me, since I am far from the only person who has had problems with her. But, I probably shouldn't get my hopes up too much.


Well, unfortunately, I read a few complaints online about the doctor that I am scheduled to see on the 15th; people unhappy with him determining that their mental issues are not related to work, which is what you need determined to continue on leave/in treatment with the workers' compensation insurer. But, I am still going to follow through and try at least. I have to do that. The thing that is causing my stress and anxiety is my work environment. The first doctor I saw definitely agreed with me on that and the guy that evaluated me the other day asked me about other areas in my life causing stress, but there really aren't any, as I told him.
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I got a call today saying that there has been a decision in the workers' comp case and I have to go in on Monday, not Tuesday to be informed about what it is. So, I am back to having major panic attacks and crying just thinking about it. I know that it is more than likely that the decisión will not be in my favor.

So, the possibility of being told I have to go back to work, which means I will be fired is looming over me. I don't want to work there any more and I should get severance, which will be a big plus. However I just cannot deal with seeing my soon to be ex boss. I just know she will be all smug and insult me and my work, even though it is so clear that she set me up to be fired. This is not about my competence when she supports my incompetent co-workers all the time. I don't know how I can make it through that. I don't feel strong enough after all I have been through these past months due to that woman. I probably will have a panic attack and I don't want her to see me like that.
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Do you have a routine you do in order to deal with panic attacks either before they happen or after they have started? Do you have any other person you could take with you for support during this meeting?
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Ugh, sorry to hear this rechu. When you go back to your workplace, do what bpcyclist suggested as far as a routine to prepare yourself ahead of time for the panic attack you think you'll have. Take something from your home with you to your workplace, that symbolizes happiness or calmness or love with you. It could be a small object, a photo, a note, something you can keep in your pocket and hold on to while you're at your workplace. For me, it's photos of my niece and nephews. I use those to stave off the anxiety I feel about my new job. I look at their photos throughout the day in order to keep myself grounded and it actually works.
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Well, that didn't go well. As expected my claim was found not to be work related. BS, but what can you do? I am quite sure that my co-workers had pressure from my boss not to say anything negative. I mean she wouldn't have access to their statements, but she may have threatened to fire people if the decisión came out in my favor. Threatening people is her M.O,. after all.

I can appeal, but I am not sure I want to. I'd need new evidence. The only possibility is to get something from the pdoc I saw in the ER and later in my office. However, when he extended my leave he said I should try and negotiate an exit with severance, which was something I did not feel emotionally strong enough to do. So, I am not sure if he'd help me continue this.

bpcyclist - I have tried some breathing techniques, but they don't seem to help that much. Talking to my husband can sometimes calm me down, but he'll be working, so I can't necesarily get in touch with him. All my friends work, so I don't really have anyone that can go with me and I'm not sure if they'll be allowed in the meeting.

At least they told me yesterday that while the workers' comp insurer won't be paying my leave for the time since I've been with them, they submitted the request to my regular insurance. Apparently, they will sometimes reject the first attempt, but the insurance regulator approves it on appeal.

Ugh, so I go back to work tomorrow. I dropped off the paperwork about this yesterday. So far no one has contacted me, but I haven't looked at my work email. All I want is to be fired with the least drama posible and to get paid what I am owed.

And, Blanche, thanks for the picture idea. I will bring a picture of my dog Helmut.

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